Originally posted by MRRiley Well Zaphod...
I personally don't consider you his "accomplice" but I do consider it naive to think that Canon and Nikon are not completely capable and willing to use negative tests results (real or manufactured) and "word-of-mouth" to persuade potential customers to buy their product rather than Pentax. Heck if I was them I would. They didn't get big by playing tidly-winks. They got big by using every marketing idea in the book and pushing their cameras. Unfortunately, Pentax largely relied upon the cameras to sell themselves and on current users to bring in new customers.
MRRiley... Thanks for being reasonable
I still have to disagree though, as personally I think the more naïve belief is the one, which I often see on Pentax forums, that Pentax is in any way a serious enough threat to the "big two" that those companies would need to attempt to paint Pentax in a bad light and draw attention away from them.
Honestly, they have absolutely no reason to. Potential dSLR buyers see Canon and Nikon all over TV, in movies, on posters, in the hands of most "professional" photographers, and therefore simply equate the brand names with "Pro" photography. They have very short memories, and for the most part K1000 and LX mean nothing to them, nor do Limited primes unless they happen to have found Mike Johnston's site (and they are more likely to stumble on Ken R0ckwell's)... they want pixels pixels pixels, and so the K100d doesn't look too impressive to them (consider the Nikon D40
x having extra pixels stuffed in to compete with Canon)... if they ask people who have already invested in dSLR systems, they will most likely find Canon and Nikon users who are happy to perpetuate both the myth that they are inherently better, and the truth that they have more extensive systems. They are going to be more impressed by the overwhelming ubiquity of Canon and Nikon than by a couple of European awards.
My point? Of course Canon and Nikon would be perfectly willing to use dirty tricks. The sad truth is they don't need to; it's Pentax who has to make the effort to overcome the odds which are against them. As you said...
Quote: Unfortunately, Pentax largely relied upon the cameras to sell themselves and on current users to bring in new customers.
And this is true. Current users alone will not evangelise enough new customers, and the cameras will not continue to sell themselves in a market where marketing and image are so important, and where cameras are just like computers, mobile phones and every other electronic gadget (i.e. people wanting the newest product with the latest specs). Pentax need to make more of an effort, and unfortunately (or fortunately if like me you want to see the company producing
even better products) that does mean new bodies to compete on specs, not only on being affordable.
It also means coming up with more
lenses... and this is where the point about RiceHigh being overly concerned with unimportant things is very true. The main problem now, and it
is a problem not only in the minds of reviewers or Canikon users, but for current Pentax users, is still a relative lack of glass, especially when third-party solutions disappear as Sigma are dumping long fast lenses for Pentax, Tamron can't be bothered releasing several of their better lenses in K-mount, and no Tokinas are available. This is a real problem for many people and it's also putting people off the system more than RiceHigh ever could. IMO it's not disloyal, nor pixel-peeping or measurebating, to say that the system is lacking and that Pentax needs to either do something about it or at least
look like it's doing something about it, and
prove beyond doubt that the new Hoya-Pentax is still serious about its SLR system.
Personally I wish that RiceHigh and others were more concerned with larger issues like this and less with minor complaints about metering or jpeg processing... and also wish that those who are 100% happy with the system as-is could accept that others have valid reasons for not feeling the same...