K200D Metering - something i miss

Squier · 10-09-2010, 10:53 PM

The metering bar on my previous Canon is something i really miss on my K200D. Overall, i love this camera more than my Canon, but that metering bar was excellent to see in the viewfinder all the time. Over or Under exposure was seen at a quick glance

I know this is a K10D image, but the Canon was identical

kales · 10-10-2010, 03:18 AM

Maybe you need a K10d?? 10d and 200d use the same CCD anyway

Squier · 10-10-2010, 03:56 AM

I had one about 18 months ago, and i much prefer the K200.

Hey, cant have everything I suppose

ytterbium · 10-10-2010, 06:42 AM

You're really talking out of context. Some additional details would be required to understand how can we help you.
Because of this i'm GUESSING, that you're talking about exposure in manual mode. Otherwise you'd be saying compensation instead of over/under exp..

As far as i can tell my k200d in manual mode always indicates expousure deviation by EV number. Maybe there was some custom setting to enable this? I remember only choice between remaining shots and ISO.

Yes, in other modes it's not displayed all the time. Still, when you apply some compensation, the number stays on LCD as long as it is applied. The top LCD also displays the [+/-] icon.
This way you can still see straight away, when some compensation is applied. A quick click on the [+/-] button allows you to confirm, if no EV has been applied.

So i'm not sure what you're actually missing. EV Indication at all times?
IMHO it exists only in a different way.

JeffJS · 10-10-2010, 08:30 AM

I believe he is saying that he prefers the bar graph type meter instead of the +/-. Nothing real difficult to understand about that. No guessing required. Especially since he shows a picture of what he is commenting about in his first post.

Squier · 10-10-2010, 08:56 AM

Thanks Jeff

K10 and Canon 40D i've owned just seem more ' instant '

+/- doesnt indicate how much +/- there is. Just that its +/-

In an instant, a bar graph is showing you by HOW MUCH you're metering is above or below zero. Simpler and it works.

This helped a great deal when using strange lenses that i've owned that needed under exposing by 1 or 2 points below zero on the bar.

gherrm · 10-11-2010, 03:56 PM

On the right by the left of the hand there is numbers there. Put it in man. mode move camera around and they will change or hit green button and it will 0 that is perfect now turn dial and you will see it change +3.0 2.0 or -3.0 20. above 0 that is the meter.When at 0 you are good to go.

Squier · 10-11-2010, 04:23 PM

When looking at the metering in Manual / Av, i dont see those numbers changing + 3 , +2 , - 2, - 3

I see ISO number

snofox · 10-11-2010, 09:34 PM

Go to Full Manual, "M" on the dial. The numbers appear in the right hand corner of the viewfinder.

BTW you can still see those numbers, and add compensation or subtract it, by pressing the Av button and rotating the e-dial in any Scene or Exposure mode except Manual and Bulb. (In Manual mode it appears at the right side automatically.) So, you have your numbers (but not a graph as with the Canon) for exposure compensation in Shutter and Aperture Priorities as well.

Squier · 10-12-2010, 04:33 AM

In manual, as i said, i dont see +3 +2 - 3 -2 I see ISO 800 / 400 etc

I mentioned strange lenses a few posts back. By that i mean MF lenses, like the Avanar M42 135mm, Tamron 90mm macro, etc

ytterbium · 10-12-2010, 04:43 AM

Probably you need to set custom function "Display Sensitivity 1: Off
2: On" To Off.
Then set OK button to show sensitivity if required.

Squier · 10-12-2010, 04:51 AM

Ok, will try that now, thanks dude

Squier · 10-12-2010, 04:55 AM

Ok, that didnt work either. Instead of ISO displayed, i now see number of shots left on the card.

I probably need to set another custom function - i'll check

snofox · 10-12-2010, 10:09 AM

I think that you have to tell the camera, in the Custom menu, which EV steps you want (1/2 or 1/3). Once the camera "knows" that you want to use it, the numbers will appear in the right of the screen automatically in Manual mode (but not automatically in AV or shutter priority or program modes). If you don't set the EV comp. steps, the camera will display something else there (ISO or shots remaining?)

Squier · 10-12-2010, 10:17 AM

I have 1/3rd EV already set, so its not that . I will keep checking things out - thats the beauty of a new camera

So much to learn

10-09-2010, 10:53 PM	#1
Squier Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxfordshire UK Photos: Albums Posts: 706	K200D Metering - something i miss The metering bar on my previous Canon is something i really miss on my K200D. Overall, i love this camera more than my Canon, but that metering bar was excellent to see in the viewfinder all the time. Over or Under exposure was seen at a quick glance I know this is a K10D image, but the Canon was identical

10-11-2010, 09:34 PM	#9
snofox Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Fredericton New Brunswick Canada Photos: Albums Posts: 334	Go to Full Manual, "M" on the dial. The numbers appear in the right hand corner of the viewfinder. BTW you can still see those numbers, and add compensation or subtract it, by pressing the Av button and rotating the e-dial in any Scene or Exposure mode except Manual and Bulb. (In Manual mode it appears at the right side automatically.) So, you have your numbers (but not a graph as with the Canon) for exposure compensation in Shutter and Aperture Priorities as well. Last edited by snofox; 10-11-2010 at 09:42 PM.

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10-10-2010, 03:18 AM	#2
kales Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Pluto Posts: 75	Maybe you need a K10d?? 10d and 200d use the same CCD anyway

10-10-2010, 03:56 AM	#3
Squier Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxfordshire UK Photos: Albums Posts: 706 Original Poster	I had one about 18 months ago, and i much prefer the K200. Hey, cant have everything I suppose

10-10-2010, 06:42 AM	#4
ytterbium Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,076	You're really talking out of context. Some additional details would be required to understand how can we help you. Because of this i'm GUESSING, that you're talking about exposure in manual mode. Otherwise you'd be saying compensation instead of over/under exp.. As far as i can tell my k200d in manual mode always indicates expousure deviation by EV number. Maybe there was some custom setting to enable this? I remember only choice between remaining shots and ISO. Yes, in other modes it's not displayed all the time. Still, when you apply some compensation, the number stays on LCD as long as it is applied. The top LCD also displays the [+/-] icon. This way you can still see straight away, when some compensation is applied. A quick click on the [+/-] button allows you to confirm, if no EV has been applied. So i'm not sure what you're actually missing. EV Indication at all times? IMHO it exists only in a different way.

10-10-2010, 08:30 AM	#5
JeffJS Inactive Account Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Michigan, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,484	I believe he is saying that he prefers the bar graph type meter instead of the +/-. Nothing real difficult to understand about that. No guessing required. Especially since he shows a picture of what he is commenting about in his first post.

10-10-2010, 08:56 AM	#6
Squier Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxfordshire UK Photos: Albums Posts: 706 Original Poster	Thanks Jeff K10 and Canon 40D i've owned just seem more ' instant ' +/- doesnt indicate how much +/- there is. Just that its +/- In an instant, a bar graph is showing you by HOW MUCH you're metering is above or below zero. Simpler and it works. This helped a great deal when using strange lenses that i've owned that needed under exposing by 1 or 2 points below zero on the bar.

10-11-2010, 03:56 PM	#7
gherrm Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Pa. Posts: 27	On the right by the left of the hand there is numbers there. Put it in man. mode move camera around and they will change or hit green button and it will 0 that is perfect now turn dial and you will see it change +3.0 2.0 or -3.0 20. above 0 that is the meter.When at 0 you are good to go.

10-11-2010, 04:23 PM	#8
Squier Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxfordshire UK Photos: Albums Posts: 706 Original Poster	When looking at the metering in Manual / Av, i dont see those numbers changing + 3 , +2 , - 2, - 3 I see ISO number

10-12-2010, 04:33 AM	#10
Squier Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxfordshire UK Photos: Albums Posts: 706 Original Poster	In manual, as i said, i dont see +3 +2 - 3 -2 I see ISO 800 / 400 etc I mentioned strange lenses a few posts back. By that i mean MF lenses, like the Avanar M42 135mm, Tamron 90mm macro, etc

10-12-2010, 04:43 AM	#11
ytterbium Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,076	Probably you need to set custom function "Display Sensitivity 1: Off 2: On" To Off. Then set OK button to show sensitivity if required.

10-12-2010, 04:51 AM	#12
Squier Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxfordshire UK Photos: Albums Posts: 706 Original Poster	Ok, will try that now, thanks dude

10-12-2010, 04:55 AM	#13
Squier Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxfordshire UK Photos: Albums Posts: 706 Original Poster	Ok, that didnt work either. Instead of ISO displayed, i now see number of shots left on the card. I probably need to set another custom function - i'll check

10-12-2010, 10:09 AM	#14
snofox Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Fredericton New Brunswick Canada Photos: Albums Posts: 334	I think that you have to tell the camera, in the Custom menu, which EV steps you want (1/2 or 1/3). Once the camera "knows" that you want to use it, the numbers will appear in the right of the screen automatically in Manual mode (but not automatically in AV or shutter priority or program modes). If you don't set the EV comp. steps, the camera will display something else there (ISO or shots remaining?)

10-12-2010, 10:17 AM	#15
Squier Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Oxfordshire UK Photos: Albums Posts: 706 Original Poster	I have 1/3rd EV already set, so its not that . I will keep checking things out - thats the beauty of a new camera So much to learn