The K-7 is a piece of crap! (SARCASM Alert)

**Ex Finn.** · 11-08-2010, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by Laurentiu Cristofor

I expect that once this thread gets to the second page, you'll start getting a lot of answers from people that just read the title and will completely miss the point. It's going to be fun to watch!

Like I just did

.
Just kidding.

GeneV · 11-08-2010, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by Laurentiu Cristofor

I expect that once this thread gets to the second page, you'll start getting a lot of answers from people that just read the title and will completely miss the point.

That was basically my point as well. These threads never stay jokes.

**Ex Finn.** · 11-08-2010, 06:29 PM

2nd page, lets see what happens. And no, my k7 is not a piece of crap.

**felixkh** · 11-08-2010, 06:55 PM

My K7 is a great wonderful camera

Transit · 11-08-2010, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by Ex Finn.

I don`t know about that. My K7 is the best handling D-SLR I ever owned and second best in IQ after my K-100D

.

arggg!!! don't say that .
I'm trying to convince myself to move from K100D to K-7 as we speak

Pete

JHD · 11-08-2010, 07:20 PM

The fact is the K5 costs a lot more than the K7 and I'm not willing to pay the difference for the few benefits it has over the K7.

**Clarkey** · 11-08-2010, 07:24 PM

I like the K-7. Just the switch back to a pentaprism was good news. My only criticism is 150g of weight and the skinny highlight range.
For me, a good tripod and the 15mm were the buys of this year.

Yes, GeneV has the right comment. This thread will be committed to internet history in a year or so when the K-5 is replaced, and the praises of the K-3 will be sung.

RobG · 11-08-2010, 07:26 PM

The nature of the electronics beast is that there will always be a newer, "better" model. You could spend forever waiting, or you make a choice about whether a particular model suits you. I really like my K7. Maybe the K5 is better, but that doesn't make the K7 bad. My favourite feature of the K7: the built in level. Being able to see the level in the viewfinder makes getting the camera horizontal or vertical so much easier!

**Rondec** · 11-08-2010, 07:27 PM

I am very pleased with my K7. Sure, some day I hope to use it as a back up to a K5, but it doesn't change the fact that it continues to take decent photos and that its limitations are primarily related to the person holding it.

Of course, if someone wants to trade me their new K5 for my "broken in" K7, I am willing to entertain offers...

Todd Adamson · 11-08-2010, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by GeneV

That was basically my point as well. These threads never stay jokes.

Well, I should say it isn't entirely a joke. It's sarcastic, but has a point, and what I expect and hope is that plenty of people will come along with great things to say about the K-7. Thus eliminating my impending buyer's remorse, and that of others. Thus, making the world a more positive place.

You see?? I'm doing something good here.

designinme_1976 · 11-08-2010, 07:38 PM

In all honesty, shooting portraits with plenty available light, or strobes.. I doubt there would be much advantage over the K-7 with the K-5.

I am sure I am going to get crucified for saying this.. but, I highly doubt many here could tell the difference apart from a K-5 or K-7 shot in the lower ISO range when photographing people. You have your Nikon D3 for low light work.. so I think you are more than covered ;-)

Two major advantages of the K-5 - High DR range and lower noise at Higher ISO.

So, after DxO caused all the crazyness on here via their ratings for the K-5 ( of which I am very impressed ).. let's take a look via the same ranking system at some cameras the K-7 beats out via their total sensor score..

The K-7 beats out
Fuji S3
Nikon D2xs
Nikon D2X
Olympus E3

Oh, and the Canon 7D,...is just a few points higher than the K-7.

So in reality.. after all the news settles in.. and you gather up your limited glass.. you will be able to upgrade to a K-5 in a year for $900.. and the new K-3 will be the new REAL upgrade.. giving everything from ISO 100,000 to free massages. :-) Oh, and people will be saying " I didn't upgrade from the K-7 to the K-5 because it wasn't a big enough leap for me".. and the cycle continues. ;-)

Todd Adamson · 11-08-2010, 07:43 PM

Originally posted by designinme_1976

In all honesty, shooting portraits with plenty available light, or strobes.. I doubt there would be much advantage over the K-7 with the K-5.

I am sure I am going to get crucified for saying this.. but, I highly doubt many here could tell the difference apart from a K-5 or K-7 shot in the lower ISO range when photographing people. You have your Nikon D3 for low light work.. so I think you are more than covered ;-)

Two major advantages of the K-5 - High DR range and lower noise at Higher ISO.

So, after DxO caused all the crazyness on here via their ratings for the K-5 ( of which I am very impressed ).. let's take a look via the same ranking system at some cameras the K-7 beats out via their total sensor score..

The K-7 beats out
Fuji S3
Nikon D2xs
Nikon D2X
Olympus E3

Oh, and the Canon 7D,...is just a few points higher than the K-7.

So in reality.. after all the news settles in.. and you gather up your limited glass.. you will be able to upgrade to a K-5 in a year for $900.. and the new K-3 will be the new REAL upgrade.. giving everything from ISO 100,000 to free massages. :-) Oh, and people will be saying " I didn't upgrade from the K-7 to the K-5 because it wasn't a big enough leap for me".. and the cycle continues. ;-)

I agree with everything you say here, and thanks for pointing out those other DxO scores, because the K-7 is a replacement for my D2x. So all it has to do to make sense for me is to have a higher score than that. LOL

creampuff · 11-08-2010, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by JHD

The fact is the K5 costs a lot more than the K7 and I'm not willing to pay the difference for the few benefits it has over the K7.

Where I am, the launch price of the K-5 is in fact a little cheaper than the launch price of the K-7.

JHD · 11-08-2010, 08:33 PM

Here in Canada, the K5 is almost double the cost of a K7. As good as the K5 is, it isn't IMO twice the camera.

solar1 · 11-08-2010, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by designinme_1976

you will be able to upgrade to a K-5 in a year for $900..

The K7 came down in price very roughly about $450 after one year in the U.S.

I'm sure that Hoya are keeping the K5 prices higher, in part to keep it's selling price higher, even after markdown. So *if* the K-5 were to come down the same amount after one year, it would be roughly 1150, which I don't expect will happen, I'm sure they'll try keep it higher than $1250-1300. I'm sure Hoya will be playing hard ball on this time around and for later iterations.

I don't expect the K-5 to come down as much this time around, I'd prefer a less expensive product myself, but, we'll also be able to eventually enjoy higher returns when we sell or trade in our used cameras too.

My three cents.

11-08-2010, 06:06 PM	#16
Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	Originally posted by Laurentiu Cristofor I expect that once this thread gets to the second page, you'll start getting a lot of answers from people that just read the title and will completely miss the point. It's going to be fun to watch! Like I just did. Just kidding.

11-08-2010, 07:14 PM	#20
Transit Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Whanganui NZ Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 4,624	Originally posted by Ex Finn. I don`t know about that. My K7 is the best handling D-SLR I ever owned and second best in IQ after my K-100D. arggg!!! don't say that . I'm trying to convince myself to move from K100D to K-7 as we speak Pete

11-08-2010, 08:34 PM	#30
solar1 Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southern Calif Posts: 565	Not likely Originally posted by designinme_1976 you will be able to upgrade to a K-5 in a year for $900.. The K7 came down in price very roughly about $450 after one year in the U.S. I'm sure that Hoya are keeping the K5 prices higher, in part to keep it's selling price higher, even after markdown. So if the K-5 were to come down the same amount after one year, it would be roughly 1150, which I don't expect will happen, I'm sure they'll try keep it higher than $1250-1300. I'm sure Hoya will be playing hard ball on this time around and for later iterations. I don't expect the K-5 to come down as much this time around, I'd prefer a less expensive product myself, but, we'll also be able to eventually enjoy higher returns when we sell or trade in our used cameras too. My three cents.

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11-08-2010, 06:17 PM	#17
GeneV Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Albuquerque NM Photos: Albums Posts: 9,830	Originally posted by Laurentiu Cristofor I expect that once this thread gets to the second page, you'll start getting a lot of answers from people that just read the title and will completely miss the point. That was basically my point as well. These threads never stay jokes.

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Ex Finn. Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Southern Maryland. Espoo. Kouvola. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 7,975	2nd page, lets see what happens. And no, my k7 is not a piece of crap.

11-08-2010, 06:55 PM	#19
felixkh Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,201	My K7 is a great wonderful camera

11-08-2010, 07:20 PM	#21
JHD Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,406	The fact is the K5 costs a lot more than the K7 and I'm not willing to pay the difference for the few benefits it has over the K7.

11-08-2010, 07:24 PM	#22
Clarkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brampton, ON, Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,456	I like the K-7. Just the switch back to a pentaprism was good news. My only criticism is 150g of weight and the skinny highlight range. For me, a good tripod and the 15mm were the buys of this year. Yes, GeneV has the right comment. This thread will be committed to internet history in a year or so when the K-5 is replaced, and the praises of the K-3 will be sung.

11-08-2010, 07:26 PM	#23
RobG Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Canberra Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 8,891	The nature of the electronics beast is that there will always be a newer, "better" model. You could spend forever waiting, or you make a choice about whether a particular model suits you. I really like my K7. Maybe the K5 is better, but that doesn't make the K7 bad. My favourite feature of the K7: the built in level. Being able to see the level in the viewfinder makes getting the camera horizontal or vertical so much easier!

11-08-2010, 07:27 PM	#24
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	I am very pleased with my K7. Sure, some day I hope to use it as a back up to a K5, but it doesn't change the fact that it continues to take decent photos and that its limitations are primarily related to the person holding it. Of course, if someone wants to trade me their new K5 for my "broken in" K7, I am willing to entertain offers...

11-08-2010, 07:38 PM	#25
Todd Adamson Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Iowa Posts: 722 Original Poster	Originally posted by GeneV That was basically my point as well. These threads never stay jokes. Well, I should say it isn't entirely a joke. It's sarcastic, but has a point, and what I expect and hope is that plenty of people will come along with great things to say about the K-7. Thus eliminating my impending buyer's remorse, and that of others. Thus, making the world a more positive place. You see?? I'm doing something good here.

11-08-2010, 07:38 PM	#26
designinme_1976 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dayton Ohio Posts: 132	In all honesty, shooting portraits with plenty available light, or strobes.. I doubt there would be much advantage over the K-7 with the K-5. I am sure I am going to get crucified for saying this.. but, I highly doubt many here could tell the difference apart from a K-5 or K-7 shot in the lower ISO range when photographing people. You have your Nikon D3 for low light work.. so I think you are more than covered ;-) Two major advantages of the K-5 - High DR range and lower noise at Higher ISO. So, after DxO caused all the crazyness on here via their ratings for the K-5 ( of which I am very impressed ).. let's take a look via the same ranking system at some cameras the K-7 beats out via their total sensor score.. The K-7 beats out Fuji S3 Nikon D2xs Nikon D2X Olympus E3 Oh, and the Canon 7D,...is just a few points higher than the K-7. So in reality.. after all the news settles in.. and you gather up your limited glass.. you will be able to upgrade to a K-5 in a year for $900.. and the new K-3 will be the new REAL upgrade.. giving everything from ISO 100,000 to free massages. :-) Oh, and people will be saying " I didn't upgrade from the K-7 to the K-5 because it wasn't a big enough leap for me".. and the cycle continues. ;-)

11-08-2010, 07:43 PM	#27
Todd Adamson Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Iowa Posts: 722 Original Poster	Originally posted by designinme_1976 In all honesty, shooting portraits with plenty available light, or strobes.. I doubt there would be much advantage over the K-7 with the K-5. I am sure I am going to get crucified for saying this.. but, I highly doubt many here could tell the difference apart from a K-5 or K-7 shot in the lower ISO range when photographing people. You have your Nikon D3 for low light work.. so I think you are more than covered ;-) Two major advantages of the K-5 - High DR range and lower noise at Higher ISO. So, after DxO caused all the crazyness on here via their ratings for the K-5 ( of which I am very impressed ).. let's take a look via the same ranking system at some cameras the K-7 beats out via their total sensor score.. The K-7 beats out Fuji S3 Nikon D2xs Nikon D2X Olympus E3 Oh, and the Canon 7D,...is just a few points higher than the K-7. So in reality.. after all the news settles in.. and you gather up your limited glass.. you will be able to upgrade to a K-5 in a year for $900.. and the new K-3 will be the new REAL upgrade.. giving everything from ISO 100,000 to free massages. :-) Oh, and people will be saying " I didn't upgrade from the K-7 to the K-5 because it wasn't a big enough leap for me".. and the cycle continues. ;-) I agree with everything you say here, and thanks for pointing out those other DxO scores, because the K-7 is a replacement for my D2x. So all it has to do to make sense for me is to have a higher score than that. LOL

11-08-2010, 07:47 PM	#28
creampuff Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Singapore Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,953	Originally posted by JHD The fact is the K5 costs a lot more than the K7 and I'm not willing to pay the difference for the few benefits it has over the K7. Where I am, the launch price of the K-5 is in fact a little cheaper than the launch price of the K-7.

11-08-2010, 08:33 PM	#29
JHD Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,406	Here in Canada, the K5 is almost double the cost of a K7. As good as the K5 is, it isn't IMO twice the camera.