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04-06-2011, 05:04 PM   #136
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QuoteOriginally posted by lockheed Quote
Great thread. I was just testing an old SMC M 135/3.5 on my K-5 and on a whim I dug the now-neglected K200D from the bag and took the same pictures with it too. I was amazed to see how much more vibrant and sharper photos the K200D rendered... (even when K5 was in Vibrant mode and K200D in Natural). I didn't do a real comparison shooting, just a couple of jpgs, but the older model brought great photos so easily that I was astounded. I was thinking K5 would totally replace the K200D, but now it looks I'll have to keep both bodies in my bag. K5 for action, macro and low-light shooting, the old body for landscapes and daylight photos.
Would that not be the in-camera processing to convert to jpeg that's making the difference? I've shot everything in RAW for the last couple of years, so I've no idea what would be the optimal settings for the K-5.

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In addition K200D fits my hand a lot better than K5, and feels more natural to use. The only thing missing is front dial really.
TAv, ISO button, easier to switch between AF-S and AF-C, etc.

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k200d执着的坚守。
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QuoteOriginally posted by RichardS Quote
Would that not be the in-camera processing to convert to jpeg that's making the difference? I've shot everything in RAW for the last couple of years, so I've no idea what would be the optimal settings for the K-5.



TAv, ISO button, easier to switch between AF-S and AF-C, etc.

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You know I was thinking the same thing but I've been shooting RAW with my K200d and I have been amazed at the quality. I think the K200d works better in RAW.
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QuoteOriginally posted by RichardS Quote
Would that not be the in-camera processing to convert to jpeg that's making the difference? I've shot everything in RAW for the last couple of years, so I've no idea what would be the optimal settings for the K-5.

TAv, ISO button, easier to switch between AF-S and AF-C, etc.

Richard.
Yes, I'm not downplaying K5 here, just saying that the K200D is still an excellent camera to use, and the picture quality at low ISOs is great. I haven't tried tweaking the K5 jpg modes yet (I usually do RAW+, and only selected photos get the full raw processing - this will probably change when I buy Lightroom 3).

I agree about the buttons, but when using K200D actively i missed the second dial most. Re the buttons: I think the button quality is quite different in K5, the older model had a more solid feel in its controls. I guess I'll just need to use the new one more.

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1) A flash PC sync (I got around this with a remote cord) and
2)A grip which can use Lithium batteries would make K200D a perfect camera, to me. Eneloops quit working close to 0 degree C.
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QuoteOriginally posted by john5100 Quote
You know I was thinking the same thing but I've been shooting RAW with my K200d and I have been amazed at the quality. I think the K200d works better in RAW.
I used to shoot in RAW+ but only use the RAW when I had to modify exposure, or I particularly wanted to PP. Then I found that even with default settings in the Silkypix/Pentax software I got much more dynamic range from RAW than SOOC jpegs. Now I process everything on the computer either with above software or Gimp. But this means I virtually always have lots of files waiting to be processed .
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QuoteOriginally posted by john5100 Quote
You know I was thinking the same thing but I've been shooting RAW with my K200d and I have been amazed at the quality. I think the K200d works better in RAW.
If you mean that the K200d works better in RAW than it does with jpegs, I agree with you. But the quality of the RAW files from the K-5 are absolutely breathtaking. The extra dynamic range makes a big difference.

This is one from my K200D. I had to do quite a bit of tweaking to get rid of blown highlights (actually, reduce ).



I still use my K200D and will continue to use it. But I prefer the K-5. A lot

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Hi guys, no doubt. I've never used a K5 but, wow, would I love too. I'm just saying that the K200d works better in RAW.

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I still use my K200D and will continue to use it. But I prefer the K-5. A lot

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I dont think I can find a K5 for 400 GBP though...
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QuoteOriginally posted by Jonathan Mac Quote
I dont think I can find a K5 for 400 GBP though...
400 GBP really? I recently purchased my brand new-boxed K200D for 457 USD from ebay by BIN (not an auction), the seller was located in Denver Colorado, I was wondering if it is a Pentax USA subsidiary or not.
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QuoteOriginally posted by cbaytan Quote
400 GBP really? I recently purchased my brand new-boxed K200D for 457 USD from ebay by BIN (not an auction), the seller was located in Denver Colorado, I was wondering if it is a Pentax USA subsidiary or not.
Thats what I paid for it almost 2 years ago, just at the end of its product cycle. It was around 100 pounds cheaper than the 450D or D60. After checking them all (& others) I couldnt work out why anyone would ever buy a 450D, D60, A380, E520...
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I think that this thread basically brings up the fact that while image quality is dependent on many things (subject, light, photographer, etc) from an equipment stand point, sensor and glass are the most important things. Take the sensor from the K200 and put it in the cheapest body and stick a high end lens on the camera and you couldn't tell the difference from the k200. The camera is really just a box to house the sensor (or film). Nothing more or less.

People sort of fall in love with the particular look a sensor gives. Those who loved the 6 megapixel sensors that Pentax used forever up to the K100 super and those who love the K20 sensor. In this case, it is a 10 megapixel sensor that also produced good results in the K10. I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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Richard, that photo of Horst is beautiful!!
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Richard, that photo of Horst is beautiful!!
Thanks, John. It's one of my favourites. Horst, BTW, is now 71 and still sailing A-Class catamarans

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I had one for about 6 mos and liked it alot. Do I miss it? Not since I now have a K-5. But it was a great camera for the price and it got me into digital. I originally thought the use of AA batteries was great, but then realized environmentally, not so good.
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