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lensego · 03-28-2016, 02:29 AM

Originally posted by lensego

Just one with this K200D
no editing at all

thanks John. I might do a bit of editing....

**yucatanPentax** · 03-28-2016, 09:17 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by MiLKMAN

Took my old bad boy out for a spin today.

Pentax K200D + DA 40 XS

Very nice Image, Milkman!

john5100 · 03-29-2016, 02:04 PM - **1 Like**

K200D come through for professional work

DA* 50-135mm

Tina and Sarah Nelloms Wedding by John Rudolph, on Flickr

Simen1 · 03-30-2016, 01:16 AM

I went from K200D to K-5 and I don’t miss the K200D. It was a bargain for its time with WR, SR, top LCD and relatively low price, but to be fair, the CCD sensor wasn’t quite competitive above base ISO, especially after the Sony 16 Mp sensor came even ISO 800 had severe banding issues, and the kit lens was not WR and the viewfinder was a mirror type witch collected dust, and the AA batteries was not my thing. I will recommend people looking for a cheap used WR camera these days to look for bargains on K-30, K-50 or K-5 in stead. The K200D should only be interesting if you are on an extreme budget and find it for less then 80$ including a kit lens.

Last edited by Simen1; 03-30-2016 at 03:39 AM.

Jonathan Mac · 03-30-2016, 03:31 AM

The sensor in the K200D at the time had the highest DR at base ISO of any APS-C DSLR except the Nikon D90. It had better DR than most FF Canon models. It was only at higher ISOs where it was less competitive.

Simen1 · 03-30-2016, 03:37 AM

Thanks, I stand corrected. It was just terrible at "high" ISOs like 800 and 1600.

john5100 · 03-30-2016, 09:05 AM - **1 Like**

Okay, here we go again. The K200D is fine with high ISO. While not as good as my K3, these are ISO 1600 from the K200D.

Chicken Foot Seattle by John Rudolph, on Flickr

Judas Preist - Epitaph Tour by John Rudolph, on Flickr

Joshua James by John Rudolph, on Flickr

Sunday Photowalk LeMay Museum by John Rudolph, on Flickr

Last edited by john5100; 03-30-2016 at 09:21 AM.

**paulh** · 03-30-2016, 09:28 AM

Great photos John, and you've shown that, in the right hands, a lot of the K200d's "shortcomings" can be overcome

The CCD sensor has a character all its own, and it's durability and build quality is top notch, imo. I would never hesitate to recommend one even today, especially for outdoors shooters.

**volley** · 03-30-2016, 11:04 AM - **2 Likes**

I may have postd these before, but I don't agree about "terrible" high ISO performance. As John has shown above already.
Shot @ ISO1250 with the M 2/85 lens.

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john5100 · 03-30-2016, 11:27 AM - **2 Likes**

paulh - Thank you for the nice comments

Volley - well done!

I think the CCD does rich colors really well.

Veteran's Day Photo Walk LeMay Museum by John Rudolph, on Flickr

Sunday Photowalk LeMay Museum by John Rudolph, on Flickr

ChristianRock · 03-30-2016, 01:10 PM

Is the K200D sensor not the same as the K10D? Maybe it's the PP but I don't think I've seen ISO 1600 shots from the K10D that were as good as these.

john5100 · 03-30-2016, 03:05 PM

It should be

Jonathan Mac · 03-30-2016, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by ChristianRock

Is the K200D sensor not the same as the K10D? Maybe it's the PP but I don't think I've seen ISO 1600 shots from the K10D that were as good as these.

It's the same sensor, though I believe the K10D (at least some of them) had problems with banding at high ISO, which was maybe due to the processing of the image rather than the sensor itself.

Simen1 · 03-31-2016, 12:32 AM

Good point. I used jpeg for the most when I had K200D and didn’t have the skill or software to make the most of the DNG files. I guess the old DNG files processed with skill and good modern software will make wonders compared to the old jpeg files I have.

john5100 · 03-31-2016, 09:06 AM

Simen1 - where the K200D falls down is low light auto focus. I have missed some shots for that.

03-29-2016, 02:04 PM - 1 Like	#693
john5100 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,725	K200D come through for professional work DA* 50-135mm Tina and Sarah Nelloms Wedding by John Rudolph, on Flickr Last edited by john5100; 03-29-2016 at 03:03 PM.

03-30-2016, 11:04 AM - 2 Likes	#699
volley Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Springe Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,693	I may have postd these before, but I don't agree about "terrible" high ISO performance. As John has shown above already. Shot @ ISO1250 with the M 2/85 lens. [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG]

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lensego Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: PERTH Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 50	Originally posted by lensego Just one with this K200D no editing at all thanks John. I might do a bit of editing....

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yucatanPentax Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dallas / Yucatan Posts: 1,842	Originally posted by MiLKMAN Took my old bad boy out for a spin today. Pentax K200D + DA 40 XS Very nice Image, Milkman!

03-30-2016, 01:16 AM	#694
Simen1 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tromsø, Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 1,031	I went from K200D to K-5 and I don’t miss the K200D. It was a bargain for its time with WR, SR, top LCD and relatively low price, but to be fair, the CCD sensor wasn’t quite competitive above base ISO, especially after the Sony 16 Mp sensor came even ISO 800 had severe banding issues, and the kit lens was not WR and the viewfinder was a mirror type witch collected dust, and the AA batteries was not my thing. I will recommend people looking for a cheap used WR camera these days to look for bargains on K-30, K-50 or K-5 in stead. The K200D should only be interesting if you are on an extreme budget and find it for less then 80$ including a kit lens. Last edited by Simen1; 03-30-2016 at 03:39 AM.

03-30-2016, 03:31 AM	#695
Jonathan Mac Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 10,911	The sensor in the K200D at the time had the highest DR at base ISO of any APS-C DSLR except the Nikon D90. It had better DR than most FF Canon models. It was only at higher ISOs where it was less competitive.

03-30-2016, 03:37 AM	#696
Simen1 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tromsø, Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 1,031	Thanks, I stand corrected. It was just terrible at "high" ISOs like 800 and 1600.

03-30-2016, 09:05 AM - 1 Like	#697
john5100 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,725	Okay, here we go again. The K200D is fine with high ISO. While not as good as my K3, these are ISO 1600 from the K200D. Chicken Foot Seattle by John Rudolph, on Flickr Judas Preist - Epitaph Tour by John Rudolph, on Flickr Joshua James by John Rudolph, on Flickr Sunday Photowalk LeMay Museum by John Rudolph, on Flickr Last edited by john5100; 03-30-2016 at 09:21 AM.

03-30-2016, 09:28 AM	#698
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,308	Great photos John, and you've shown that, in the right hands, a lot of the K200d's "shortcomings" can be overcome The CCD sensor has a character all its own, and it's durability and build quality is top notch, imo. I would never hesitate to recommend one even today, especially for outdoors shooters.

03-30-2016, 11:27 AM - 2 Likes	#700
john5100 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,725	paulh - Thank you for the nice comments Volley - well done! I think the CCD does rich colors really well. Veteran's Day Photo Walk LeMay Museum by John Rudolph, on Flickr Sunday Photowalk LeMay Museum by John Rudolph, on Flickr

03-30-2016, 01:10 PM	#701
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,912	Is the K200D sensor not the same as the K10D? Maybe it's the PP but I don't think I've seen ISO 1600 shots from the K10D that were as good as these.

03-30-2016, 03:05 PM	#702
john5100 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,725	It should be

03-30-2016, 10:06 PM	#703
Jonathan Mac Pentaxian Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 10,911	Originally posted by ChristianRock Is the K200D sensor not the same as the K10D? Maybe it's the PP but I don't think I've seen ISO 1600 shots from the K10D that were as good as these. It's the same sensor, though I believe the K10D (at least some of them) had problems with banding at high ISO, which was maybe due to the processing of the image rather than the sensor itself.

03-31-2016, 12:32 AM	#704
Simen1 Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Tromsø, Norway Photos: Albums Posts: 1,031	Good point. I used jpeg for the most when I had K200D and didn’t have the skill or software to make the most of the DNG files. I guess the old DNG files processed with skill and good modern software will make wonders compared to the old jpeg files I have.

03-31-2016, 09:06 AM	#705
john5100 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,725	Simen1 - where the K200D falls down is low light auto focus. I have missed some shots for that.

Anyone else miss the K200D?

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