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01-17-2011, 07:06 AM   #61
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I still love my K200D. If it broke today, I´d track down a used one before I bought a K-x or K-r. If I could scrape together the funds for a K7 (or K5) I might get one of them new though.

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I just got my K200 working last night. If the weather allows, I will test it against the K-R. My guess is that the low ISO shots would favor the K200.
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I think a K-x/K-r in a K200D frame would have lot of takers among us. That said, I probably want a K-5
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K200 would still blow away a lot of cameras at base ISO. The shots were amazing. I wish I wouldn't have gotten rid of mine. That being said, if you want to go about 400 ISO, expect some grainy images.

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Fwiw, I regularly shoot my K200d at ISO 800 and am quite pleased with the results. As for build quality vs the Kx, the two cameras have very different ergonomics, but retain a solid feeling in your hand. Based on carrying both cameras on vacations, the Kx balances optimally with shorter lenses. Current rig is the 62mm version of the Tamron 28-300, which makes a nice wide range & compact setup. The K200 will still balance well with a long & moderately heavy telephoto (using a Tamron 70-300 w/older Sigma PZ-AF 1.4x 5-element converter).
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QuoteOriginally posted by sewebster Quote
A friend of mine just updated from the k10d (same sensor as k200d) to the k5 and he felt that the k10d had lower noise until iso 400 where they were equal and then the k5 was vastly better at higher iso. I think he much prefers the k5 in general, these were just his comments on iso performance.
Well, my K5 has just been ordered and will be brought to me from Japan in a couple of weeks - so I'll try to find time to do some tests. I've got a hunch that with the right settings in ACR I can get the K5 output looking very similar. (I could then save those settings for future use which would be much more convenient than carrying 2 bodies around.)
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I love my K200d and high ISO noise isn't that bad. It's easily cleaned in LR3.

I took this shot at ISO 1600; I'm pleased.

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I wouldn't miss a K200D if I ever had one, because my K10D is a lot better while having practically the same aftermarket price.

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Everyone keeps saying the K200/K10 sensor 'blows away' many other cameras at low iso. Well, I used to have a K7 and now I have a K10 (wrong way round I know! ) and, while no doubt the K10 does have very good low iso IQ, when I zoom in to an iso100 image the background has a noisier grain than the K7 produces at iso100.

Here is a crop of the out of focus background from a K10 iso100 image as an example. In the same situation the K7 gave a smoother rendered background.


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I put the BG3 on my K200D - and it looks - and acts - like a thousand-dollar camera.
Example: My favorite night-shot of the Mackinac Bridge, 13-second-exposure merged image.
Mackinac Bridge at Night - WXGA pictures from michigan photos on webshots

However, I don't think we'll see weather sealing on a AA dSLR anytime soon. Market trends are pointing in other directions. But then, that makes me happy to have such a unique and competent instrument.
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QuoteOriginally posted by canonfather Quote
Example: My favorite night-shot of the Mackinac Bridge, 13-second-exposure merged image.
Very nice! The bridge looks so innocuous in that photo, which is completely unlike my experience, riding a motorcycle across it in a crosswind on the steel grating.
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Yes, that is my point from above. There is something I like about those 10 MP CCD sensor cameras that just produce (IMHO!) outstanding photos. In fact, I like them so much that I'm thinking my upgrade strategy should be a good k10/k200, and spend the rest on glass! The ISO 1600 that was cleaned and posted by john5100 above is very nice! Thanks also for the bridge photo. Glenn
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QuoteOriginally posted by GlennG Quote
In fact, I like them so much that I'm thinking my upgrade strategy should be a good k10/k200, and spend the rest on glass!Glenn

if your photography style/interest can live with the slow AF/FPS this is a very very good idea. My DA12-24 is on my k200d most of the time. The 3D effect as well as the kind of sharpness this combo can produce is wonderful to my eye. I also have the impression that shooting with a fast prime and playing with shallow DOF this 3D effect is also noticable.

btw do we a have a thread like "show us your best CCD shots or something"?

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k200d DA35 2.4 this "budget" prime produces very nice warm colors with this body:




Thanks for looking!

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QuoteOriginally posted by Spock Quote
Everyone keeps saying the K200/K10 sensor 'blows away' many other cameras at low iso. Well, I used to have a K7 and now I have a K10 (wrong way round I know! ) and, while no doubt the K10 does have very good low iso IQ, when I zoom in to an iso100 image the background has a noisier grain than the K7 produces at iso100.

Here is a crop of the out of focus background from a K10 iso100 image as an example. In the same situation the K7 gave a smoother rendered background.
I have to say I am struggling to see what the differences are in pictures when they are not zoomed and cropped. I am sure this is in part due to my inexperience. My positive opinions about the K200D are all about the features, not the IQ.

I think Andras' pictures here are amazing. My question is, what is it about the sensor that makes them different? How would they look different out of a K20D for example? Is it possible that the noise Spock has highlighted at 100 ISO actually produces a pleasing '3D' effect, which is why people like the camera at this setting so much?
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When you click on the pic, original image direct from the K200d downloads, I suggest you magnify the corns, you might wanna also check the black-side DR with the umbrella. Lens is DA 16-45mm, EXIF is also intact anyway


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