Originally posted by stanic since the SANYO Eneloop charger uses 250 mA I would not go over that
I charge mine Eneloops in BC-900 @ 200 mA and they are okay for 400 raw shots in cold at least
Well .. how much was that eneloop charger - that probably came with the batteries?
It is unfortunately a cheap charger (and I hate that old phrase "you get what you pay for") - and although it "works" - it is just not optimum - please see below for a fuller answer.
Originally posted by stanic what I think is, that the less the charging current is, the less damage (memory effect) to the cells occurs (and charging takes more time of course)
Sorry that's not strictly true -
it may seem logical -
but it is a kind of myth.
There are many strategies for detecting end of charge
- ie: when the battery is Full.
This is important because charging beyond that will over-heat the battery and therefore damage it.
Most chargers (except for the cheapest ones) now use chips for controllers, and those mainly use -dV (delta V or NDV) end of charge detection - and according to the experts and all that I have read - -dV is difficult to detect below about 1/2C - and the ideal detection is between 1/2 to 1C.
quote from
BatteryUniversity.com (about 1/2 way down that page)-
"
Nickel-metal-hydride chargers require more complex electronics than nickel-cadmium systems. To begin with, nickel-metal-hydride produces a very small voltage drop at full charge and the NDV is almost non-existent at charge rates below 0.5C and elevated temperatures. Aging and degenerating cell match diminish the already minute voltage delta further. This makes full charge detection difficult.
A nickel-metal-hydride charger must respond to a voltage drop of 8-16mV per cell. Making the charger too sensitive may terminate the fast charge halfway through the charge due to voltage fluctuations and electrical noise. Most of today's nickel-metal-hydride chargers use a combination of NDV, rate-of-temperature-increase (dT/dt), temperature sensing and timeout timers. The charger utilizes whatever comes first to terminate the fast-charge. "
So the optimum charging current is the oft mentioned 0.5 or 1/2C - in the case of eneloops where typical C=2000mA - this is 1000mA = 1Amp - this is
NOT by any means a low current - and better chargers have temperature sensors.
Batteries should be pretty warm (close to hot) toward the end of charge - they should not be too hot to hold in a tightly closed hand - it that is the case, then the battery is likely to have been damaged.
Last edited by UnknownVT; 01-31-2011 at 10:24 AM.