K10D Shutter Activations - Does the camera keep track?

HGMonaro · 10-15-2007, 09:30 PM

If the answer is here, or elsewhere, I can't find it!

Is there a way to see how many times the shutter has fired in a K10D?

Cheers, Nige

blwnhr · 10-15-2007, 10:21 PM

The fine name IMGPxxxx tells you how many shots you've taken. Once you get to 10,000 it goes back to 0001. Just keep a log of 10,000's if you really wanted to know.

baw · 10-15-2007, 11:19 PM

The latest versions of ExifTool
are able to extract the shuttercount from the EXIF block in your images.

Matjazz · 10-15-2007, 11:29 PM

The problem is that one can easily reset image count or set it to any number when selling the camera and buyer can but trust the seller.

Matjazz · 10-15-2007, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by baw

The latest versions of ExifTool
are able to extract the shuttercount from the EXIF block in your images.

I tried a JPG from *Ist DS and couldn't find shuttercount

zoomzoomfan · 10-15-2007, 11:49 PM

Ok. I'm going to ask a dumb question.

Why is it important to know how many activations a DSLR has done?

Matjazz · 10-15-2007, 11:54 PM

To evaluate how heavily it has been used when buying second hand.

Edvinas · 10-16-2007, 12:01 AM

Originally posted by baw

The latest versions of ExifTool
are able to extract the shuttercount from the EXIF block in your images.

Wow! Jens Duttke is a genius!
Have you noticed, he also managed to hack AF point information. Now his tool (PhotoME - Exif, IPTC & ICC Metadata Editor) nicely displays AF point on picture.

Edvinas · 10-16-2007, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by Matjazz

The problem is that one can easily reset image count or set it to any number when selling the camera and buyer can but trust the seller.

And, for example, your picture file is IMGP5555.jpg. Is it 5555th picture taken? Or is it 15555th picture? Or maybe it's 95555h picture?

zoomzoomfan · 10-16-2007, 12:18 AM

Originally posted by Matjazz

To evaluate how heavily it has been used when buying second hand.

Thanks Matjazz.

I did some research after I posted and found that the K100D shutter is good for about 10,000 actuations. That number seems a bit too low to me.

I downloaded the ExifTool program and found out that I'm currently at 1367 actuations.

My highest file number is IMGP1109. So it is reasonable to assume that someone at the Pentax factory took 258 shots?

I bought mine new.

Edvinas · 10-16-2007, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by zoomzoomfan

Thanks Matjazz.

I did some research after I posted and found that the K100D shutter is good for about 10,000 actuations. That number seems a bit too low to me.

I downloaded the ExifTool program and found out that I'm currently at 1367 actuations.

My highest file number is IMGP1109. So it is reasonable to assume that someone at the Pentax factory took 258 shots?

I bought mine new.

First of all, 10,000 definately isn't a limit. More likely it is 50,000 or even 100,000.

And regarding those 258 shots... could be that in factory they are testing assempled cameras, but also it could be not completely new camera. When you have sales policies which allow you to return photographic equipment within 2 or 4 weeks just because you didn't like it, you never know if you buy completely new or returned camera. What do you think what do they do with returned cameras?

Definitely they don't throw them away

They repackage them and sell them again

bymy141 · 10-16-2007, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by zoomzoomfan

Thanks Matjazz.

I downloaded the ExifTool program and found out that I'm currently at 1367 actuations.

My highest file number is IMGP1109. So it is reasonable to assume that someone at the Pentax factory took 258 shots?

I bought mine new.

You are sure you've never reset the image counter?

Perhaps you are using the digital preview mode now and then (on my K10D that is used by turning the power switch to the right)? I do.
That would increase shutter count without taking pictures.

- Bert

bymy141 · 10-16-2007, 01:40 AM

Originally posted by Edvinas

Wow! Jens Duttke is a genius!
Have you noticed, he also managed to hack AF point information. Now his tool (PhotoME - Exif, IPTC & ICC Metadata Editor) nicely displays AF point on picture.

Thanks for pointing us to this link.
GREAT tool!

- Bert

Matjazz · 10-16-2007, 02:04 AM

I still haven't managed to get shutter count from *Ist DS jpeg (converted from raw with silkypix)

baw · 10-16-2007, 02:21 AM

Either the Ist Ds didn't have this Tag yet or SilkyPix didn't copy it to the JPEG.
Perhaps shooting a fresh JPEG and see if the shuttercount is there?

10-15-2007, 09:30 PM	#1
HGMonaro Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Melb. Aust Posts: 840	K10D Shutter Activations - Does the camera keep track? If the answer is here, or elsewhere, I can't find it! Is there a way to see how many times the shutter has fired in a K10D? Cheers, Nige

10-15-2007, 11:19 PM	#3
baw Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Neterlands Posts: 189	ExifTool The latest versions of ExifTool are able to extract the shuttercount from the EXIF block in your images.

10-16-2007, 02:21 AM	#15
baw Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Neterlands Posts: 189	Shuttercount.. Either the Ist Ds didn't have this Tag yet or SilkyPix didn't copy it to the JPEG. Perhaps shooting a fresh JPEG and see if the shuttercount is there?

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10-15-2007, 10:21 PM	#2
blwnhr Veteran Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tasmania, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 663	The fine name IMGPxxxx tells you how many shots you've taken. Once you get to 10,000 it goes back to 0001. Just keep a log of 10,000's if you really wanted to know.

10-15-2007, 11:29 PM	#4
Matjazz Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: EU/Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 774	The problem is that one can easily reset image count or set it to any number when selling the camera and buyer can but trust the seller.

10-15-2007, 11:43 PM	#5
Matjazz Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: EU/Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 774	Originally posted by baw The latest versions of ExifTool are able to extract the shuttercount from the EXIF block in your images. I tried a JPG from *Ist DS and couldn't find shuttercount

10-15-2007, 11:49 PM	#6
zoomzoomfan Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 47	Ok. I'm going to ask a dumb question. Why is it important to know how many activations a DSLR has done?

10-15-2007, 11:54 PM	#7
Matjazz Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: EU/Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 774	To evaluate how heavily it has been used when buying second hand.

10-16-2007, 12:01 AM	#8
Edvinas Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kaunas Posts: 1,458	Originally posted by baw The latest versions of ExifTool are able to extract the shuttercount from the EXIF block in your images. Wow! Jens Duttke is a genius! Have you noticed, he also managed to hack AF point information. Now his tool (PhotoME - Exif, IPTC & ICC Metadata Editor) nicely displays AF point on picture.

10-16-2007, 12:05 AM	#9
Edvinas Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kaunas Posts: 1,458	Originally posted by Matjazz The problem is that one can easily reset image count or set it to any number when selling the camera and buyer can but trust the seller. And, for example, your picture file is IMGP5555.jpg. Is it 5555th picture taken? Or is it 15555th picture? Or maybe it's 95555h picture?

10-16-2007, 12:18 AM	#10
zoomzoomfan Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 47	Originally posted by Matjazz To evaluate how heavily it has been used when buying second hand. Thanks Matjazz. I did some research after I posted and found that the K100D shutter is good for about 10,000 actuations. That number seems a bit too low to me. I downloaded the ExifTool program and found out that I'm currently at 1367 actuations. My highest file number is IMGP1109. So it is reasonable to assume that someone at the Pentax factory took 258 shots? I bought mine new.

10-16-2007, 12:39 AM	#11
Edvinas Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kaunas Posts: 1,458	Originally posted by zoomzoomfan Thanks Matjazz. I did some research after I posted and found that the K100D shutter is good for about 10,000 actuations. That number seems a bit too low to me. I downloaded the ExifTool program and found out that I'm currently at 1367 actuations. My highest file number is IMGP1109. So it is reasonable to assume that someone at the Pentax factory took 258 shots? I bought mine new. First of all, 10,000 definately isn't a limit. More likely it is 50,000 or even 100,000. And regarding those 258 shots... could be that in factory they are testing assempled cameras, but also it could be not completely new camera. When you have sales policies which allow you to return photographic equipment within 2 or 4 weeks just because you didn't like it, you never know if you buy completely new or returned camera. What do you think what do they do with returned cameras? Definitely they don't throw them away They repackage them and sell them again

10-16-2007, 01:39 AM	#12
bymy141 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,563	Originally posted by zoomzoomfan Thanks Matjazz. I downloaded the ExifTool program and found out that I'm currently at 1367 actuations. My highest file number is IMGP1109. So it is reasonable to assume that someone at the Pentax factory took 258 shots? I bought mine new. You are sure you've never reset the image counter? Perhaps you are using the digital preview mode now and then (on my K10D that is used by turning the power switch to the right)? I do. That would increase shutter count without taking pictures. - Bert

10-16-2007, 01:40 AM	#13
bymy141 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,563	Originally posted by Edvinas Wow! Jens Duttke is a genius! Have you noticed, he also managed to hack AF point information. Now his tool (PhotoME - Exif, IPTC & ICC Metadata Editor) nicely displays AF point on picture. Thanks for pointing us to this link. GREAT tool! - Bert

10-16-2007, 02:04 AM	#14
Matjazz Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: EU/Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 774	I still haven't managed to get shutter count from *Ist DS jpeg (converted from raw with silkypix)