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garyk · 04-08-2011, 05:51 AM

I googled this and came up with alot of is hoya going to sell Pentax. But as a fairly newcommer to Pentax .. Why did Pentax sell to Hoya?

Colbyt · 04-08-2011, 05:57 AM

Just took a quick look and it was more like a hostile take over. I would have to link to other forums, something I never do, to give you live links. Instead I will suggest you use Google and the search term: Hoya Pentax take over.

garyk · 04-08-2011, 06:51 AM

That did it.. thanks

jjdgti · 04-08-2011, 07:26 AM

Originally posted by Colbyt

Just took a quick look and it more a hostile take over. I would have to link to other forums, something I never do, to give you live links. Instead I will suggest you use Google and the search term: Hoya Pentax take over.

Interesting reading using those search words. Thanks

Wheatfield · 04-08-2011, 10:48 AM

It was a fairly hostile takeover. Hoya wanted the medical imaging division, Pentax managed to arrange the takeover in such a way that the camera division was kept intact.
Whether or not it was hostile or friendly, the fact is, Pentax would not exist today were it not for Hoya.

**dadipentak** · 04-08-2011, 10:53 AM

I'll bet they did it for the money--just a hunch.

Oscar1 · 04-08-2011, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by Wheatfield

Whether or not it was hostile or friendly, the fact is, Pentax would not exist today were it not for Hoya.

And, if they don't stop turning out junk like the K7, They may not exist much longer.

robroy · 04-08-2011, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by Oscar1

And, if they don't stop turning out junk like the K7, They may not exist much longer.

And it's not just K7 junk they are producing. K-r and it's focusing problem is a joke. It just doesn't make me laugh when I own one ;-)

eddie1960 · 04-08-2011, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by Oscar1

And, if they don't stop turning out junk like the K7, They may not exist much longer.

Lucky for you then they discontinued it and put out the new improved version in the K5

Personally I have no major complaints on the K7 aside from high iso which i knew about when i bought it and could rectify with the k5. i've used canons meh, can't stand the functuionality and like having sr on my legacy lenses. Sony even bigger meh
Nikon, ok, but same thing i like my legacy glass and sr, though i would take a Nikon ff if someone offered but nothing is drawing me to it over Pentax. (for the expense of putting together a good Nikon ff kit I'd just go 645d)

not that canon/sony don't make good cameras they do. just not for me

Oscar1 · 04-08-2011, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by eddie1960

"Lucky for you then they discontinued it and put out the new improved version in the K5

I don't think I'd exactly call it lucky.

I have two of the damned pieces of junk. I never seen to have but one of them available as one of them is always in repair.

Between Sensor, Failure e-dail failure and one SDM failure, I'l believe I'll be making a move. I've been shooting with Pentax gear since 1976. I've always liked the egronomics of Pentax gear over C & N. But, it's time to make a move.

Now, I can't wait for all the Fanboy crap that will be in this thread.

Pentax simply no longer makes quality gear. To claim otherwise is to be in denial.

selar · 04-08-2011, 02:23 PM

They are finding it hard to recover from the very forgettable film slrs they produced in the 90s. Poor sales = no money for R&D. They were very late into dSLR. By the time they did enter, the race was well and truly over. It really was shake reduction in the K100D and legacy lens support that kept them alive. The Hoya takeover has helped, we have seen good improvements in AF and high iso performance.

It s incorrect to say Pentax does not make quality gear. What they do make, they build very well. Forums tend to magnify issues.

Wheatfield · 04-08-2011, 03:49 PM

Originally posted by Oscar1

I don't think I'd exactly call it lucky.

I have two of the damned pieces of junk. I never seen to have but one of them available as one of them is always in repair.

Between Sensor, Failure e-dail failure and one SDM failure, I'l believe I'll be making a move. I've been shooting with Pentax gear since 1976. I've always liked the egronomics of Pentax gear over C & N. But, it's time to make a move.

Now, I can't wait for all the Fanboy crap that will be in this thread.

Pentax simply no longer makes quality gear. To claim otherwise is to be in denial.

Don't buy a D60. A buddy of mine did and it sprays oil onto the sensor.
Would you accuse me of being a fanboy if I intimated that your post is on the whiny juvenile side?

sjwaldron · 04-08-2011, 04:10 PM

Originally posted by Oscar1

I don't think I'd exactly call it lucky.
Now, I can't wait for all the Fanboy crap that will be in this thread.

What do you expect with claims like that? My K-7 is solid and a great camera and I've been able to make many wonderful images with it. My K-5 is even better.

eddie1960 · 04-08-2011, 04:20 PM

Originally posted by Oscar1

I don't think I'd exactly call it lucky.

I have two of the damned pieces of junk. I never seen to have but one of them available as one of them is always in repair.

Between Sensor, Failure e-dail failure and one SDM failure, I'l believe I'll be making a move. I've been shooting with Pentax gear since 1976. I've always liked the egronomics of Pentax gear over C & N. But, it's time to make a move.

Now, I can't wait for all the Fanboy crap that will be in this thread.

Pentax simply no longer makes quality gear. To claim otherwise is to be in denial.

No skin off my nose if you wsnna bail but if you think canikon dont have problems then bail
But after 30 + years in the sales side of the industry i can say dont be surprised when you have problems with your new choice
Really as things becone more complicated there is more room for issues
My old really manual film gear is really reliable
I'd be a fool though if i expected that from my new gear. Ferraris spend a lot of time in the shop hyundias not so much
Both get you point a to b but its more fun in the ferrari

DanWeso · 04-08-2011, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by Oscar1

And, if they don't stop turning out junk like the K7, They may not exist much longer.

Originally posted by Oscar1

I don't think I'd exactly call it lucky.

I have two of the damned pieces of junk. I never seen to have but one of them available as one of them is always in repair.

Between Sensor, Failure e-dail failure and one SDM failure, I'l believe I'll be making a move. I've been shooting with Pentax gear since 1976. I've always liked the egronomics of Pentax gear over C & N. But, it's time to make a move.

Now, I can't wait for all the Fanboy crap that will be in this thread.

Pentax simply no longer makes quality gear. To claim otherwise is to be in denial.

YouTube - Baby crying

04-08-2011, 05:51 AM	#1
garyk Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 488	why did Pentax sell to Hoya I googled this and came up with alot of is hoya going to sell Pentax. But as a fairly newcommer to Pentax .. Why did Pentax sell to Hoya?

04-08-2011, 05:57 AM	#2
Colbyt Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Central Kentucky Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,418	Just took a quick look and it was more like a hostile take over. I would have to link to other forums, something I never do, to give you live links. Instead I will suggest you use Google and the search term: Hoya Pentax take over. Last edited by Colbyt; 04-08-2011 at 02:29 PM. Reason: replace missing words "it was more like "

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04-08-2011, 06:51 AM	#3
garyk Inactive Account Join Date: Feb 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 488 Original Poster	That did it.. thanks

04-08-2011, 07:26 AM	#4
jjdgti Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 1,824	Originally posted by Colbyt Just took a quick look and it more a hostile take over. I would have to link to other forums, something I never do, to give you live links. Instead I will suggest you use Google and the search term: Hoya Pentax take over. Interesting reading using those search words. Thanks

04-08-2011, 10:48 AM	#5
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,991	It was a fairly hostile takeover. Hoya wanted the medical imaging division, Pentax managed to arrange the takeover in such a way that the camera division was kept intact. Whether or not it was hostile or friendly, the fact is, Pentax would not exist today were it not for Hoya.

04-08-2011, 10:53 AM	#6
dadipentak Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Baltimore, Maryland Photos: Gallery Posts: 11,590	I'll bet they did it for the money--just a hunch.

04-08-2011, 12:21 PM	#7
Oscar1 Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 231	Originally posted by Wheatfield Whether or not it was hostile or friendly, the fact is, Pentax would not exist today were it not for Hoya. And, if they don't stop turning out junk like the K7, They may not exist much longer.

04-08-2011, 12:28 PM	#8
robroy Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 34	Originally posted by Oscar1 And, if they don't stop turning out junk like the K7, They may not exist much longer. And it's not just K7 junk they are producing. K-r and it's focusing problem is a joke. It just doesn't make me laugh when I own one ;-)

04-08-2011, 12:41 PM	#9
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	Originally posted by Oscar1 And, if they don't stop turning out junk like the K7, They may not exist much longer. Lucky for you then they discontinued it and put out the new improved version in the K5 Personally I have no major complaints on the K7 aside from high iso which i knew about when i bought it and could rectify with the k5. i've used canons meh, can't stand the functuionality and like having sr on my legacy lenses. Sony even bigger meh Nikon, ok, but same thing i like my legacy glass and sr, though i would take a Nikon ff if someone offered but nothing is drawing me to it over Pentax. (for the expense of putting together a good Nikon ff kit I'd just go 645d) not that canon/sony don't make good cameras they do. just not for me

04-08-2011, 02:10 PM	#10
Oscar1 Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 231	Originally posted by eddie1960 "Lucky for you then they discontinued it and put out the new improved version in the K5 I don't think I'd exactly call it lucky. I have two of the damned pieces of junk. I never seen to have but one of them available as one of them is always in repair. Between Sensor, Failure e-dail failure and one SDM failure, I'l believe I'll be making a move. I've been shooting with Pentax gear since 1976. I've always liked the egronomics of Pentax gear over C & N. But, it's time to make a move. Now, I can't wait for all the Fanboy crap that will be in this thread. Pentax simply no longer makes quality gear. To claim otherwise is to be in denial.

04-08-2011, 02:23 PM	#11
selar Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,042	They are finding it hard to recover from the very forgettable film slrs they produced in the 90s. Poor sales = no money for R&D. They were very late into dSLR. By the time they did enter, the race was well and truly over. It really was shake reduction in the K100D and legacy lens support that kept them alive. The Hoya takeover has helped, we have seen good improvements in AF and high iso performance. It s incorrect to say Pentax does not make quality gear. What they do make, they build very well. Forums tend to magnify issues.

04-08-2011, 03:49 PM	#12
Wheatfield Moderator Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The wheatfields of Canada Posts: 15,991	Originally posted by Oscar1 I don't think I'd exactly call it lucky. I have two of the damned pieces of junk. I never seen to have but one of them available as one of them is always in repair. Between Sensor, Failure e-dail failure and one SDM failure, I'l believe I'll be making a move. I've been shooting with Pentax gear since 1976. I've always liked the egronomics of Pentax gear over C & N. But, it's time to make a move. Now, I can't wait for all the Fanboy crap that will be in this thread. Pentax simply no longer makes quality gear. To claim otherwise is to be in denial. Don't buy a D60. A buddy of mine did and it sprays oil onto the sensor. Would you accuse me of being a fanboy if I intimated that your post is on the whiny juvenile side?

04-08-2011, 04:10 PM	#13
sjwaldron Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,235	Originally posted by Oscar1 I don't think I'd exactly call it lucky. Now, I can't wait for all the Fanboy crap that will be in this thread. What do you expect with claims like that? My K-7 is solid and a great camera and I've been able to make many wonderful images with it. My K-5 is even better.

04-08-2011, 04:20 PM	#14
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	Originally posted by Oscar1 I don't think I'd exactly call it lucky. I have two of the damned pieces of junk. I never seen to have but one of them available as one of them is always in repair. Between Sensor, Failure e-dail failure and one SDM failure, I'l believe I'll be making a move. I've been shooting with Pentax gear since 1976. I've always liked the egronomics of Pentax gear over C & N. But, it's time to make a move. Now, I can't wait for all the Fanboy crap that will be in this thread. Pentax simply no longer makes quality gear. To claim otherwise is to be in denial. No skin off my nose if you wsnna bail but if you think canikon dont have problems then bail But after 30 + years in the sales side of the industry i can say dont be surprised when you have problems with your new choice Really as things becone more complicated there is more room for issues My old really manual film gear is really reliable I'd be a fool though if i expected that from my new gear. Ferraris spend a lot of time in the shop hyundias not so much Both get you point a to b but its more fun in the ferrari

04-08-2011, 04:45 PM	#15
DanWeso Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Buffalo, NY Photos: Albums Posts: 191	Originally posted by Oscar1 And, if they don't stop turning out junk like the K7, They may not exist much longer. Originally posted by Oscar1 I don't think I'd exactly call it lucky. I have two of the damned pieces of junk. I never seen to have but one of them available as one of them is always in repair. Between Sensor, Failure e-dail failure and one SDM failure, I'l believe I'll be making a move. I've been shooting with Pentax gear since 1976. I've always liked the egronomics of Pentax gear over C & N. But, it's time to make a move. Now, I can't wait for all the Fanboy crap that will be in this thread. Pentax simply no longer makes quality gear. To claim otherwise is to be in denial. YouTube - Baby crying

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