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04-20-2011, 04:38 AM   #31
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Pentax offers the most if you want a small, weather sealed package that won't break the bank. How many of Nikon's consumer zooms (that are really good an incredibly sharp) are sealed? Clearly, they hit slightly different niches.

That said, the biggest reason why I like the K5 better is that I can mount my K mount lenses on it.

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QuoteOriginally posted by Ash Quote
To me AF is the K-5's only significant deficiency.
I'd add tethering (lack of) and flash options.

Video could be better for the broader market.
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QuoteOriginally posted by dylansalt Quote
for Pentax and it has nothing else in it's range

Nikon D7000

same sensor - tick
better and infallible flash in any situation and better than K5 - tick
better auto-focus in lowlight without af assist light - tick
better range of really good incredibly sharp consumer zoom lenses - tick
really good metering and focusing with old lenses - tick
tons of old lenses to choose from - tick
3D focus tracking - tick
new Full frame lenses that work seamless with Crop and full frame - tick
vr in tele lenses is nicer and easier to use than in body stabilisation
active d lighting works seamlessly to great effect

Is it Nikon's best dslr - no

You can choose D700, D3s or D3x depending on the size of your wallet.
I certainly won't put a tick on that particular checkbox.
I've seen enough D7K photos and the camera in action next to me out of 2 full day events on a friend's camera to know that its AF speed and accuracy is no better than my K5. In fact the K5 was the one with far more non-OOF shots
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QuoteOriginally posted by dylansalt Quote
for Pentax and it has nothing else in it's range

Nikon D7000

same sensor - tick
ISO 80 is valuable to me, and Pentax seems to have a slight DR advantage across the range according to DxO. Though certainly not something I'd switch brands for: each brand will leapfrog the other in upcoming models.
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better and infallible flash in any situation and better than K5 - tick
better TTL yes, infallible, no. Still has issues with say close up and of course all the normal TTL limitations. With manual flash, they are the same, which most serious lighting artists will use.
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better auto-focus in lowlight without af assist light - tick
Evidence?
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better range of really good incredibly sharp consumer zoom lenses - tick
Agreed, which I think is one of the more important points
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really good metering and focusing with old lenses - tick
Metering, definitely. How is focusing better?
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tons of old lenses to choose from - tick
3D focus tracking - tick
new Full frame lenses that work seamless with Crop and full frame - tick
What do you mean?
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vr in tele lenses is nicer and easier to use than in body stabilisation
Agreed, I think autofocus is helped quite a bit by a stabilized image
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active d lighting works seamlessly to great effect
Useless if you really want to take advantage of the sensor's real capability.
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Is it Nikon's best dslr - no

You can choose D700, D3s or D3x depending on the size of your wallet.
Can't wait for their FF updates with new sensor technology.

Other features for Nikon: sync speed, fast lenses, long lenses, ring motors, AF tracking options (in the D300s, not sure about the D7000), accessories, renting ability, sharing lenses with people around you.

For Pentax: smaller bodies, smaller limiteds, auto-ISO options, new SR tied to metering (great idea), cheaper weathersealed system, cheaper IS system


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Funny comparising. Who chooses his camera up on battery life?
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QuoteOriginally posted by MPrince Quote
Another small correction, the K-5 is not Pentax's entry-level camera. (As stated at the bottom of the snapsort.com screenshot.)
And they'd still be wrong with correct grammar = an entry-level...
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Oh, small correction, the 5D Mk2 is not Canon's flagship camera.
This always made me laugh about canon users. Their *dream* camera is always the 5D MKII. My friend and I (who is a Nikon shooter) always wondered why this was. He just got a D700 the other day but his dream camera is still the D3 (or its subsequent replacement which is IMO far overdo ).

Im not saying this is true for you, but every canon user we talk to has this mentality. Even his college photography teacher called the 5D MKII their flagship model (and later made the point that a Hassy and the canon are comparable )
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QuoteOriginally posted by yeatzee Quote
This always made me laugh about canon users. Their *dream* camera is always the 5D MKII. My friend and I (who is a Nikon shooter) always wondered why this was. He just got a D700 the other day but his dream camera is still the D3 (or its subsequent replacement which is IMO far overdo ).

Im not saying this is true for you, but every canon user we talk to has this mentality. Even his college photography teacher called the 5D MKII their flagship model (and later made the point that a Hassy and the canon are comparable )
I think it is because few of Canon's cameras are actually full frame. Most are APS-C or APS-H. The only other one, I think is the 1DS Mark III, which is priced at 7000 dollars and has fewer megapixels than the 5D (although it is a step up in every other way from the 5D).

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QuoteOriginally posted by geekette Quote
Someone told me Pentax is REALLY popular in Japan compared to USA. I wonder what percentage of sales they get in Japan versus Nikon and Canon. I wonder how Pentax fares in other countries besides US and Japan.
Canon basically owns Korea. You can't walk 10 feet without tripping over a Canon DSLR. Nikon has a smaller market share here, and Pentax is here..but its rarely worth buying it here. I usually buy when I pop over to japan for vacation.
Though I did recently talk my friend into getting a K-x, which I got to play with briefly.

She wanted a new camera and was eyeing a very expensive olympus and the pentax came in cheaper, so she went for it. She is quite happy thus far.

I've randomly only seen one or two other Pentax here when I was just out and about.
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