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peted · 12-18-2006, 05:57 AM

The K10D does have a reasonable focus screen, probably not worth going for a split screen.

**NaClH2O** · 12-18-2006, 11:53 AM

Both the FA 50mm 1.4 and the Tamron 90 f2.8 are great lenses, but kinda different. I use the Tamron as a short tele, along with it's macro. It's also a good face portrait lens as you can stay far enough away from your subject so that you sitting on their nose (so to speak) It's macro capabilties are really good too. The FA 50 f1.4 is the sharpest lens in my bag, especially around 5.6, tho it's still pretty good wide open too. And it's low light capability is great!
Here is a photo I took of a moving toy train at a holiday train show at the New York Botanical Gardens. If you do a resize you can easily see the writing on the coal carrier "Scrooge Colleries" "Nice Coal for Naughty Children" :-) Taken with the FA 50 1/350 at f1.4 ISO 400. On a relatively cloudy afternoon inside under some a fair amount of vegetation.

NaCl(great lens for indoor shots)H2O

jeffkrol · 12-18-2006, 12:55 PM

east (***) saltwater??? The "I wasted my time" thread was fun, wasn't it!
Like your play on sigs..

ChrisN · 12-18-2006, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by peted

That surprises me, how do you get focusing errors with a manual focus lens?

Focus indicator going off when not focused?

I ignore the focus indicator when using manual manual lenses wide open, and depend on getting the sharpest image on the focusing screen.

I think that's where the problem arises. For SLR manual focusing to work, the distance of the optical path from the lens to the correct surface of the focusing screen has to be precisely the same as the distance of the optical path from the lens to the surface of the sensor. I think there is still a bit of variation in that. (Totally ignoring the auto-focus system here.)

I also suspect that with this lens there is a shift in the focus point as you change the aperture, with all other variables fixed. I'll test that over the next couple of days.

**NaClH2O** · 12-18-2006, 06:44 PM

Well, to be truthful, I think Phil whines as much as some of the people he complains about whining. I really do think he needs to develop emotional distance from the posters. He even accused me of accusing him of bias! All I can say is that it's more fun here

NaCl(and thanks for the compliment about my sig)H2O

peted · 12-18-2006, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by NaClH2O

Well, to be truthful, I think Phil whines as much as some of the people he complains about whining. I really do think he needs to develop emotional distance from the posters. He even accused me of accusing him of bias! All I can say is that it's more fun here

NaCl(and thanks for the compliment about my sig)H2O

His meows, duhs and Sads, etc leaves him wide open and he can hardly complain for the responses he gets.

dleung · 12-18-2006, 07:13 PM

Lets see some pics from this new gem!

peted · 12-18-2006, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by dleung

Lets see some pics from this new gem!

I have been posting, already won a contest on Flickr. :-)

dleung · 12-19-2006, 05:51 PM

Actually, I was talking to ChrisN and his new 50 f1.2

Nice pics you have though.

peted · 12-19-2006, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by dleung

Actually, I was talking to ChrisN and his new 50 f1.2

Nice pics you have though.

Of course you were!

But seeing as I started the thread I thought I better answer, ChrisN can't come to the PC right now anyway cos he has a new lens and is using it.

ChrisN · 12-19-2006, 07:43 PM

Actually I'd planned to get out this afternoon to give it a good try, but something has popped up to prevent that. I will post some images, but it might take a few days.

peted · 12-19-2006, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by ChrisN

Actually I'd planned to get out this afternoon to give it a good try, but something has popped up to prevent that. I will post some images, but it might take a few days.

You will need it this afternoon, not very bright out there. Looks like being dull right through to Christmas.

ChrisN · 12-21-2006, 04:30 AM

Posted some sample pics here

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12-18-2006, 05:57 AM	#16
peted Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canberra, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 133 Original Poster	The K10D does have a reasonable focus screen, probably not worth going for a split screen.

12-18-2006, 11:53 AM	#17
NaClH2O Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bronx NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,631	Both the FA 50mm 1.4 and the Tamron 90 f2.8 are great lenses, but kinda different. I use the Tamron as a short tele, along with it's macro. It's also a good face portrait lens as you can stay far enough away from your subject so that you sitting on their nose (so to speak) It's macro capabilties are really good too. The FA 50 f1.4 is the sharpest lens in my bag, especially around 5.6, tho it's still pretty good wide open too. And it's low light capability is great! Here is a photo I took of a moving toy train at a holiday train show at the New York Botanical Gardens. If you do a resize you can easily see the writing on the coal carrier "Scrooge Colleries" "Nice Coal for Naughty Children" :-) Taken with the FA 50 1/350 at f1.4 ISO 400. On a relatively cloudy afternoon inside under some a fair amount of vegetation. NaCl(great lens for indoor shots)H2O

12-18-2006, 12:55 PM	#18
jeffkrol Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Wisconsin USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,434	east (***) saltwater??? The "I wasted my time" thread was fun, wasn't it! Like your play on sigs..

12-18-2006, 01:38 PM	#19
ChrisN Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Downunda Photos: Gallery Posts: 212	Originally posted by peted That surprises me, how do you get focusing errors with a manual focus lens? Focus indicator going off when not focused? I ignore the focus indicator when using manual manual lenses wide open, and depend on getting the sharpest image on the focusing screen. I think that's where the problem arises. For SLR manual focusing to work, the distance of the optical path from the lens to the correct surface of the focusing screen has to be precisely the same as the distance of the optical path from the lens to the surface of the sensor. I think there is still a bit of variation in that. (Totally ignoring the auto-focus system here.) I also suspect that with this lens there is a shift in the focus point as you change the aperture, with all other variables fixed. I'll test that over the next couple of days.

12-18-2006, 06:44 PM	#20
NaClH2O Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bronx NY Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,631	Well, to be truthful, I think Phil whines as much as some of the people he complains about whining. I really do think he needs to develop emotional distance from the posters. He even accused me of accusing him of bias! All I can say is that it's more fun here NaCl(and thanks for the compliment about my sig)H2O

12-18-2006, 06:49 PM	#21
peted Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canberra, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 133 Original Poster	Originally posted by NaClH2O Well, to be truthful, I think Phil whines as much as some of the people he complains about whining. I really do think he needs to develop emotional distance from the posters. He even accused me of accusing him of bias! All I can say is that it's more fun here NaCl(and thanks for the compliment about my sig)H2O His meows, duhs and Sads, etc leaves him wide open and he can hardly complain for the responses he gets.

12-18-2006, 07:13 PM	#22
dleung New Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA Posts: 16	Lets see some pics from this new gem!

12-18-2006, 09:51 PM	#23
peted Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canberra, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 133 Original Poster	Originally posted by dleung Lets see some pics from this new gem! I have been posting, already won a contest on Flickr. :-)

12-19-2006, 05:51 PM	#24
dleung New Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA Posts: 16	Actually, I was talking to ChrisN and his new 50 f1.2 Nice pics you have though.

12-19-2006, 07:22 PM	#25
peted Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canberra, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 133 Original Poster	Originally posted by dleung Actually, I was talking to ChrisN and his new 50 f1.2 Nice pics you have though. Of course you were! But seeing as I started the thread I thought I better answer, ChrisN can't come to the PC right now anyway cos he has a new lens and is using it.

12-19-2006, 07:43 PM	#26
ChrisN Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Downunda Photos: Gallery Posts: 212	Actually I'd planned to get out this afternoon to give it a good try, but something has popped up to prevent that. I will post some images, but it might take a few days.

12-19-2006, 09:20 PM	#27
peted Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canberra, Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 133 Original Poster	Originally posted by ChrisN Actually I'd planned to get out this afternoon to give it a good try, but something has popped up to prevent that. I will post some images, but it might take a few days. You will need it this afternoon, not very bright out there. Looks like being dull right through to Christmas.

12-21-2006, 04:30 AM	#28
ChrisN Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Downunda Photos: Gallery Posts: 212	Posted some sample pics here

I am not talking to ChrisN

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