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05-05-2011, 11:16 AM   #1
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New K-r or used K-7 ?

Don't know witch one to choose

The K-r is new (under 600€ in our country) 1 year warranty
- new
- more fps
- better ISO performance...

The K-7 used 5000 shots, the same price, 1 year old, no warranty, good (or will look for one on PentaxForums, but only from EU)
- more MP for bigger prints
- more control with buttons (front and rear e-dial..) don't like menus
- 100% viewfinder - big plus for me!


The K-7 has more +++ for me, but the K-r is new with warranty...

05-05-2011, 11:42 AM   #2
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Depends on your needs, they are both fine cameras. For somebody with some experience behind a camera who wants the external controls then the K-7 is the easy choice. I would not worry about a 1 year old camera intended to go to 100k shots.

There are some good cases for the K-r too. For example we have only one DSLR between my wife and I. She has no interest in learning the controls and lives by the preset modes and she's 100% happy with that. A more advanced camera would mean less good pictures for her.
05-05-2011, 01:15 PM   #3
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If you are among those who are of the view that the sensor is the camera, buy the K-r.

If however you take the position that the camera is not the sensor, buy the K-7.
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And it's weatherproof, the K7, wich can be a big plus if you do certain type of shooting....I've lost some opportunities because my kx isn't.

If you do most of your shooting in daylight and suficiently luminous interiors the K7...if you do a lot of shooting in dim light i would go for the Kx (it still sells in some places, cheaper and without the tungsten light FF problem...you can put aside the rest of the money for a good lens to sit on your camera).

I've been hunting for a cheap k7 myself but i have the kx to compensate it's shortcomings sooo...

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If these are the two choices only, I would say go with K-r. You may soon find k-7 high ISO is disappointing and IQ is the what eventually matters.
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When did high ISO become a substitute for light?
05-09-2011, 05:37 AM   #7
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QuoteOriginally posted by JHD Quote
When did high ISO become a substitute for light?
never..it's just a great feature if you like ambient light night fotography. It makes things easier for indoors fotography too .
High ISO just helps use and enjoy some dimmer, more difficult kind of light.
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QuoteOriginally posted by JHD Quote
When did high ISO become a substitute for light?
when I tried use k-7 after using k-x for a while

Honestly, it makes difference in day light too. I often bump ISO when using 70-200 to get maximum shutter speed and with k-x I can take that liberty, k-7 simply wont match.

05-09-2011, 11:29 AM   #9
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Don't need too high ISO performance!
Max ISO1600 not more! On my K100D never got over ISO1600.

The K7 or K-r is going to be a replacement for my K100D (it's too old, slow...)
05-09-2011, 11:40 AM   #10
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tried both. Love K-7 more.

better high ISO is not so important for most people
05-09-2011, 12:44 PM   #11
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I think it depends on the lenses you want to use, more than anything. If you like zoom lenses, high ISO performance is more important because you have less light to work with and thus you have to substitute with a higher sensitivity if you want to keep the same aperture/shutter speed. In that scenario, the K-r delivers the goods. More menus and less buttons does make for a more finicky workflow.

However, this is coming from a fellow who just returned a K-r because of the lack of weather-resilience, which is a deal-killing feature out here on the Wet Coast.
05-11-2011, 03:27 PM   #12
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QuoteOriginally posted by Djsajmy Quote
Don't need too high ISO performance!
Max ISO1600 not more! On my K100D never got over ISO1600.

The K7 or K-r is going to be a replacement for my K100D (it's too old, slow...)
This is the K-7 shot at 1000ISO and cropped close to 50%. No noise reduction. Noise is hardly an issue. Only when pixelpeeping.

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Cool shot...it's true it's not a big issue..maybe if you needed to enlarge it (but then it would be meant to be seen from further away so...)
QuoteOriginally posted by Djsajmy Quote
Don't need too high ISO performance!
Then the choice is clear.
WR, more controls, 100% viewfinder, good back LCD,...
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