Originally posted by rawr A RAW file should (in theory) be a tabula rasa. It's up to the RAW convertor to make of it what it will, subject to it's own algorithms and the preferences of the guy driving the computer doing the conversion. A RAW processor may take into account the camera settings for NR and WB, and even lens corrections etc, and some software like DCU may let you choose that for your RAW processing, but a RAW processor normally doesn't pay attention to camera settings for such things. It makes up it's own mind.
I agree that the raw file has no inherent image qualities until conversion. But it has to apply some algorithms for you to view the photo. You can't see a "raw" file, it's just ones and zeros.
The question is, does the raw image display the camera settings used for Image Tone, NR, Highlight Correction, etc? Certainly DCU4 does, and if you just print without altering the parameters, the print will incorporate the exact camera settings.
Originally posted by rawr I'm saying that a straight conversion in LR seems to apply hardly any NR by default to Kx images it processes, whereas the NR applied to JPG's in-camera can be quite prominent. Therefore Lightroom appears to pay little attention to the in-camera NR settings that apply to SOOC K-x JPGs.
I'd like to see proof if you don't mind. Shoot two raw photos at ISO 12800, one with NR off and one with NR set to High. Do a straight jpeg conversion of each. I believe the camera settings for NR will appear in the converted jpegs.
Originally posted by rawr The following pix illustrate this, at the ISO extreme of 12800 where the in-camera NR JPG settings should all be pretty strong, since above ISO 6400 in-camera NR within the K-x is hard-wired in and isn't optional anymore
The "hard-wired" high ISO noise reduction in the K-x is only defeatable via firmware modification. Sensor-level NR is present in the K-x raw files, therefore is also present in the LR conversion. What you're showing here is certainly not what we've been talking about. AFAICT, you're showing a photo with noise reduction added by LR vs no noise reduction in the OOC jpeg.
Originally posted by rawr Sorry to crossover for this diversion of his thread
I don't see this as a diversion at all. The OP is ignoring the camera's NR setting because he's using raw and doesn't think it matters. I believe it does matter, because an unprocessed raw conversion will reproduce the camera settings. Maybe I'm wrong, I'd appreciate it if you could do the test I outlined above to show this definitively.
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