K10d shutter count.....

m3hxe · 05-23-2011, 03:25 AM

Hi all im looking at buying a Pentax K10d ond ebay. It has 7764 shutter actuations on it.Is this a low count for the camera? What count does yours have?

Thanks-Simon.

**Fries** · 05-23-2011, 02:43 PM

I am not the owner of a K10d but I don't think this shutter count is anything to worry about. There should be more than enough life in this 'old' beast!

Laurentiu Cristofor · 05-23-2011, 08:33 PM

The shutter count gets reset at each 10000 shots. I believe I reset it twice on my K10D and it still works great. Make sure you read the actual shutter count from the EXIF file of a new image, not the number from the image filename - there are tools for reading the EXIF data that someone else may recommend - I never used them, I just know they exist.

stevebrot · 05-23-2011, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by Laurentiu Cristofor

there are tools for reading the EXIF data that someone else may recommend

I use the Exif Viewer extension to Firefox for quick looks and ExifTool if I want to do some editing. I have never seen the actual serial id for an exposure in the Exif from my K10D, but that does not mean it is not there.

Steve

stevebrot · 05-23-2011, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

...I have never seen the actual serial id for an exposure...

Found it! The exposure count is stripped by Lightroom on export, but is in the original RAW file. Mine is 10,000 + the current image number + 105. Yes, + 105...go figure...

Steve

(ShutterCount field in the MakerNotes section)

pop4 · 05-23-2011, 09:27 PM

Originally posted by m3hxe

Hi all im looking at buying a Pentax K10d ond ebay. It has 7764 shutter actuations on it.Is this a low count for the camera? What count does yours have?

My 3.5 year old K10D has over 30K+ shutter actuations and is still going strong, so 7764 isn't too bad and it sounds like the owner hasn't taken an awful lot of photos with it.

Originally posted by Laurentiu Cristofor

The shutter count gets reset at each 10000 shots. I believe I reset it twice on my K10D and it still works great. Make sure you read the actual shutter count from the EXIF file of a new image, not the number from the image filename - there are tools for reading the EXIF data that someone else may recommend - I never used them, I just know they exist.

The filename count clocks over at each 10000 shots but the shutter count doesn't clock over. The K10D names it's files IMGPxxxx or _IGPxxxx (where xxxx is the file number) depending on which colour space the camera is set to use, so when you get to IMGP9999, the next photo is either IMGP0000 or IMGP0001, I'm not 100% sure which one it is, but that doesn't change the fact that you've added 1 to the actual shutter count, not taken away 10000. That is why looking at the filename of a photo from a camera is not a very accurate way of determining shutter actuations.

I use photome and it does list the shutter count as a data field. Exiftool also does it, but I prefer the GUI of photome.

Laurentiu Cristofor · 05-23-2011, 10:56 PM

Originally posted by stevebrot

Yes, + 105...go figure...

I believe that's because you can trigger the shutter for other operations, although I forgot which - darkframe subtraction for long exposures maybe? The counter accounts for any shutter operation, not only for those resulting in saved images.

Originally posted by pop4

The filename count clocks over at each 10000 shots but the shutter count doesn't clock over.

Agree. I didn't call it filename count, because most people will instinctively call it shutter count. Thanks for clarifying.

The Jannie · 05-24-2011, 12:47 AM

I have two K10s, each bought used in the past year. Photome tells me that one is approaching 10k and the other 7k so they may outlive me!

Stone G. · 05-24-2011, 05:05 AM

PhotoMe tells me that my latests picture with my K200D (: "Budget version" of the K10D)was at shutter count 36,359. So, I would consider 7,764 a very modest count and would not worry about that. If otherwise OK, the K10D still today reamains a very capable camera in my view!

05-23-2011, 03:25 AM	#1
m3hxe New Member Join Date: May 2011 Photos: Gallery Posts: 11	K10d shutter count..... Hi all im looking at buying a Pentax K10d ond ebay. It has 7764 shutter actuations on it.Is this a low count for the camera? What count does yours have? Thanks-Simon.

05-23-2011, 09:27 PM	#6
pop4 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: YMML Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,879	Originally posted by m3hxe Hi all im looking at buying a Pentax K10d ond ebay. It has 7764 shutter actuations on it.Is this a low count for the camera? What count does yours have? My 3.5 year old K10D has over 30K+ shutter actuations and is still going strong, so 7764 isn't too bad and it sounds like the owner hasn't taken an awful lot of photos with it. Originally posted by Laurentiu Cristofor The shutter count gets reset at each 10000 shots. I believe I reset it twice on my K10D and it still works great. Make sure you read the actual shutter count from the EXIF file of a new image, not the number from the image filename - there are tools for reading the EXIF data that someone else may recommend - I never used them, I just know they exist. The filename count clocks over at each 10000 shots but the shutter count doesn't clock over. The K10D names it's files IMGPxxxx or _IGPxxxx (where xxxx is the file number) depending on which colour space the camera is set to use, so when you get to IMGP9999, the next photo is either IMGP0000 or IMGP0001, I'm not 100% sure which one it is, but that doesn't change the fact that you've added 1 to the actual shutter count, not taken away 10000. That is why looking at the filename of a photo from a camera is not a very accurate way of determining shutter actuations. I use photome and it does list the shutter count as a data field. Exiftool also does it, but I prefer the GUI of photome. Last edited by pop4; 05-23-2011 at 09:47 PM.

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05-23-2011, 02:43 PM	#2
Fries Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Gauw Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,582	I am not the owner of a K10d but I don't think this shutter count is anything to worry about. There should be more than enough life in this 'old' beast!

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Laurentiu Cristofor Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: WA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,055	The shutter count gets reset at each 10000 shots. I believe I reset it twice on my K10D and it still works great. Make sure you read the actual shutter count from the EXIF file of a new image, not the number from the image filename - there are tools for reading the EXIF data that someone else may recommend - I never used them, I just know they exist.

05-23-2011, 08:44 PM	#4
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by Laurentiu Cristofor there are tools for reading the EXIF data that someone else may recommend I use the Exif Viewer extension to Firefox for quick looks and ExifTool if I want to do some editing. I have never seen the actual serial id for an exposure in the Exif from my K10D, but that does not mean it is not there. Steve

05-23-2011, 08:52 PM	#5
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by stevebrot ...I have never seen the actual serial id for an exposure... Found it! The exposure count is stripped by Lightroom on export, but is in the original RAW file. Mine is 10,000 + the current image number + 105. Yes, + 105...go figure... Steve (ShutterCount field in the MakerNotes section)

05-23-2011, 10:56 PM	#7
Laurentiu Cristofor Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: WA Photos: Albums Posts: 3,055	Originally posted by stevebrot Yes, + 105...go figure... I believe that's because you can trigger the shutter for other operations, although I forgot which - darkframe subtraction for long exposures maybe? The counter accounts for any shutter operation, not only for those resulting in saved images. Originally posted by pop4 The filename count clocks over at each 10000 shots but the shutter count doesn't clock over. Agree. I didn't call it filename count, because most people will instinctively call it shutter count. Thanks for clarifying.

05-24-2011, 12:47 AM	#8
The Jannie Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: South Yorkshire Photos: Gallery Posts: 215	I have two K10s, each bought used in the past year. Photome tells me that one is approaching 10k and the other 7k so they may outlive me!

05-24-2011, 05:05 AM	#9
Stone G. Pentaxian Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: North Zealand, Denmark Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,516	PhotoMe tells me that my latests picture with my K200D (: "Budget version" of the K10D)was at shutter count 36,359. So, I would consider 7,764 a very modest count and would not worry about that. If otherwise OK, the K10D still today reamains a very capable camera in my view!