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regken · 11-13-2007, 04:55 AM

Originally posted by and

Very unfortunately, it seems to me there will be none over or under the two existing models, just replacements for them. Only thing that might happen is they keep the k100d super and have something between that and the k10d, but thats not really nescesary imo...

I'm not getting that impression at all. One model will most likely have a 14mp CMOS sensor with 5-7 fps and a new advancement that landscape/wildlife shooters will like a great deal (read expanded DR and/or cleaner images at ISO 100 to 800). It will most likely also have live view. I would be surprised if it has an integrated battery grip because of the market it is going after. The AF will be improved but more emphasis will be place on accuracy in low light at the expense of speed. The hints we have gotten from 4 people "in the Know" all seem to point in this direction. It may not be the body for you or me but it would certainly be in the Pentax tradition.

Regards,

Ken

jgredline · 11-13-2007, 09:27 AM

Hopefully they ''will'' come out with something and not give us fools gold to look forward to.

LeftBehind · 11-13-2007, 09:58 AM

Is anyone else hoping for budget primes? Or rather, one budget prime. Nikon and Canon have their 100$ 50mm 1.7 which i would love for Pentax to match, especially with the price of used lenses sky-rocketing.

egordon99 · 11-13-2007, 10:33 AM

They have the FA 50mm f/1.4, about $160 after rebate. They used to make an FA (and F) f/1.7, but I think it was so close in cost to the f/1.4, they stopped making it.
I believe the Canikon's 50mm f/1.4 offerings are closer to $300.

alinla · 11-13-2007, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by jgredline

Hopefully they ''will'' come out with something and not give us fools gold to look forward to.

Well, CES is the second week in Jan. No need to be all gloom & doom until then. Go out and enjoy your current equipment. The new stuff will get here when it gets here.

Personally I'm hoping for a new roadmap with a fast wide angle prime around 16-18mm but I imagine we won't see anything like that until after the telephotos come out.

codiac2600 · 11-13-2007, 10:41 AM

Originally posted by LeftBehind

Is anyone else hoping for budget primes? Or rather, one budget prime. Nikon and Canon have their 100$ 50mm 1.7 which i would love for Pentax to match, especially with the price of used lenses sky-rocketing.

That lens is built out of recycled good camera minus any metal parts... If Pentax would like to make an FAJ series 50 1.? then by all means, but lets hope for a metal mount and some decent gears in it.

*isteve · 11-13-2007, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by and

Very unfortunately, it seems to me there will be none over or under the two existing models, just replacements for them. Only thing that might happen is they keep the k100d super and have something between that and the k10d, but thats not really nescesary imo...

Now get those two out of the way and start working on a Pentax with integrated vertical grip, 3.5" screen, top and back status lcd's, 100% VF etcetc for me so I can upgrade from my k10d to something higher level

The K100D is long in the tooth, the K10D is a year old. Both "replacements" will be considerable advances on existing models I understand.

A higher end pro-body may happen at some point but probably not before the end of 2008. They may even bring out the 645D first - who knows. A lot depends on market shifts and the world economy I suspect.

davemdsn · 11-13-2007, 05:29 PM

I talked to a Pentax rep last Saturday and he had NO idea what the new products were that people keep talking about here. He could have been fibbing, but why. I see no real evidence of the actual direction Pentax are heading with new products for the new year. I am sure that it will be good, but until someone breaks NDA I am not believing anything until Pentax makes a formal announcement.

*isteve · 11-13-2007, 10:16 PM

Originally posted by davemdsn

I talked to a Pentax rep last Saturday and he had NO idea what the new products were that people keep talking about here. He could have been fibbing, but why. I see no real evidence of the actual direction Pentax are heading with new products for the new year. I am sure that it will be good, but until someone breaks NDA I am not believing anything until Pentax makes a formal announcement.

Yep. Best not try and interpret the speculation and read between the lines, you will probably be wrong. Lets all wait and see.

Matjazz · 11-14-2007, 01:55 AM

One thing that made almost all Pentax DSLRs stand out of the crowd is AA battery support. I hope they keep it.
(lack of it in K10D was a deal breaker for me).

Andreas · 11-14-2007, 03:23 AM

I agree... technology has changed so much during the past 2 years!
My small handheld computer (HP 200LX) is now 10 years old, and it's so much more useful now than it was then, since it uses AA's, and they last months now.

If I had to choose today between a K10D and a K100D, I'd choose the latter just for the AA's. (I believe that *both* models would suit me of course!)

and · 11-14-2007, 03:47 AM

If the new model had AA's then that would be a serious negative for me. Have you AA lovers actually tried using the k10d... I hate the AA solution in my DS...

Mike Cash · 11-14-2007, 03:54 AM

Originally posted by and

If the new model had AA's then that would be a serious negative for me. Have you AA lovers actually tried using the k10d... I hate the AA solution in my DS...

Different strokes for different folks. I had my fill of proprietary batteries in previous digital P&S cameras that I have owned and consequently firmly consider AA (or least AA as an option to a proprietary battery) a selling point. I didn't have the dough to seriously consider the K10D over the K100D as an option anyway, but when I saw that the K10D did not allow for AA I thought, "I'm supposed to find that appealing?"

wll · 11-14-2007, 03:59 AM

The Pentax proprietary batteries are much stronger and give very fine performance in a small package. For me they are the way to go.

I just hope the new semi pro model or pro model uses the same batteries as the K10D.

wll

and · 11-14-2007, 04:15 AM

Originally posted by wll

The Pentax proprietary batteries are much stronger and give very fine performance in a small package. For me they are the way to go.

I just hope the new semi pro model or pro model uses the same batteries as the K10D.

wll

Amen!
I used to think "ugh..no AA's" when I saw the k10d too.
But the k10d batteries last forever, I use 2 at the same time. They just last and last.

The Pentax engieers have said the primary reason for faster AF in the k10d is more juice from the battery. eanough said..... end of discussion....

ok you still want more?
with the DS I had to buy good AA's or use rechargables, bad AA's die really fast, and if I did continous shooting then they could die even tho they were brand new. The battery life of the DS sucks, I always had to carry spare batteries.

rechargable AA's recharge really slowly and I needed so many they cluttered up drawers and desks and I ended up loosing some here and there. with the k10d I have 2 batteries and they are always in the camera or, on rare occasion, in the charger.

the k10d battery is not really expensive, if I had needed a spare or two I would have picked it up but since the battery life is so long I dont need to.

I love the battery solution of the k10d and that is mainly becaue I had the DS and AA battery hell before that.

11-14-2007, 01:55 AM	#25
Matjazz Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: EU/Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 774	One thing that made almost all Pentax DSLRs stand out of the crowd is AA battery support. I hope they keep it. (lack of it in K10D was a deal breaker for me). Last edited by Matjazz; 11-14-2007 at 02:04 AM.

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11-13-2007, 04:55 AM	#16
regken Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangor, Maine Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,377	Originally posted by and Very unfortunately, it seems to me there will be none over or under the two existing models, just replacements for them. Only thing that might happen is they keep the k100d super and have something between that and the k10d, but thats not really nescesary imo... I'm not getting that impression at all. One model will most likely have a 14mp CMOS sensor with 5-7 fps and a new advancement that landscape/wildlife shooters will like a great deal (read expanded DR and/or cleaner images at ISO 100 to 800). It will most likely also have live view. I would be surprised if it has an integrated battery grip because of the market it is going after. The AF will be improved but more emphasis will be place on accuracy in low light at the expense of speed. The hints we have gotten from 4 people "in the Know" all seem to point in this direction. It may not be the body for you or me but it would certainly be in the Pentax tradition. Regards, Ken

11-13-2007, 09:27 AM	#17
jgredline Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: LosAngeles, Ca. Photos: Albums Posts: 10,628	Hopefully they ''will'' come out with something and not give us fools gold to look forward to.

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LeftBehind Inactive Account Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 13	Is anyone else hoping for budget primes? Or rather, one budget prime. Nikon and Canon have their 100$ 50mm 1.7 which i would love for Pentax to match, especially with the price of used lenses sky-rocketing.

11-13-2007, 10:33 AM	#19
egordon99 Inactive Account Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Outside of Philly Posts: 1,561	They have the FA 50mm f/1.4, about $160 after rebate. They used to make an FA (and F) f/1.7, but I think it was so close in cost to the f/1.4, they stopped making it. I believe the Canikon's 50mm f/1.4 offerings are closer to $300.

11-13-2007, 10:37 AM	#20
alinla Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 193	Originally posted by jgredline Hopefully they ''will'' come out with something and not give us fools gold to look forward to. Well, CES is the second week in Jan. No need to be all gloom & doom until then. Go out and enjoy your current equipment. The new stuff will get here when it gets here. Personally I'm hoping for a new roadmap with a fast wide angle prime around 16-18mm but I imagine we won't see anything like that until after the telephotos come out.

11-13-2007, 10:41 AM	#21
codiac2600 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Rockford, Illinois Posts: 2,027	Originally posted by LeftBehind Is anyone else hoping for budget primes? Or rather, one budget prime. Nikon and Canon have their 100$ 50mm 1.7 which i would love for Pentax to match, especially with the price of used lenses sky-rocketing. That lens is built out of recycled good camera minus any metal parts... If Pentax would like to make an FAJ series 50 1.? then by all means, but lets hope for a metal mount and some decent gears in it.

11-13-2007, 03:33 PM	#22
*isteve Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 1,187	Originally posted by and Very unfortunately, it seems to me there will be none over or under the two existing models, just replacements for them. Only thing that might happen is they keep the k100d super and have something between that and the k10d, but thats not really nescesary imo... Now get those two out of the way and start working on a Pentax with integrated vertical grip, 3.5" screen, top and back status lcd's, 100% VF etcetc for me so I can upgrade from my k10d to something higher level The K100D is long in the tooth, the K10D is a year old. Both "replacements" will be considerable advances on existing models I understand. A higher end pro-body may happen at some point but probably not before the end of 2008. They may even bring out the 645D first - who knows. A lot depends on market shifts and the world economy I suspect.

11-13-2007, 05:29 PM	#23
davemdsn Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Boise, Idaho Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,413	I talked to a Pentax rep last Saturday and he had NO idea what the new products were that people keep talking about here. He could have been fibbing, but why. I see no real evidence of the actual direction Pentax are heading with new products for the new year. I am sure that it will be good, but until someone breaks NDA I am not believing anything until Pentax makes a formal announcement.

11-13-2007, 10:16 PM	#24
*isteve Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, England Posts: 1,187	Originally posted by davemdsn I talked to a Pentax rep last Saturday and he had NO idea what the new products were that people keep talking about here. He could have been fibbing, but why. I see no real evidence of the actual direction Pentax are heading with new products for the new year. I am sure that it will be good, but until someone breaks NDA I am not believing anything until Pentax makes a formal announcement. Yep. Best not try and interpret the speculation and read between the lines, you will probably be wrong. Lets all wait and see.

11-14-2007, 03:23 AM	#26
Andreas Inactive Account Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 75	I agree... technology has changed so much during the past 2 years! My small handheld computer (HP 200LX) is now 10 years old, and it's so much more useful now than it was then, since it uses AA's, and they last months now. If I had to choose today between a K10D and a K100D, I'd choose the latter just for the AA's. (I believe that both models would suit me of course!)

11-14-2007, 03:47 AM	#27
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	If the new model had AA's then that would be a serious negative for me. Have you AA lovers actually tried using the k10d... I hate the AA solution in my DS...

11-14-2007, 03:54 AM	#28
Mike Cash Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Japan Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,950	Originally posted by and If the new model had AA's then that would be a serious negative for me. Have you AA lovers actually tried using the k10d... I hate the AA solution in my DS... Different strokes for different folks. I had my fill of proprietary batteries in previous digital P&S cameras that I have owned and consequently firmly consider AA (or least AA as an option to a proprietary battery) a selling point. I didn't have the dough to seriously consider the K10D over the K100D as an option anyway, but when I saw that the K10D did not allow for AA I thought, "I'm supposed to find that appealing?"

11-14-2007, 03:59 AM	#29
wll Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mission Hills, CA Posts: 773	The Pentax proprietary batteries are much stronger and give very fine performance in a small package. For me they are the way to go. I just hope the new semi pro model or pro model uses the same batteries as the K10D. wll

11-14-2007, 04:15 AM	#30
and Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,476	Originally posted by wll The Pentax proprietary batteries are much stronger and give very fine performance in a small package. For me they are the way to go. I just hope the new semi pro model or pro model uses the same batteries as the K10D. wll Amen! I used to think "ugh..no AA's" when I saw the k10d too. But the k10d batteries last forever, I use 2 at the same time. They just last and last. The Pentax engieers have said the primary reason for faster AF in the k10d is more juice from the battery. eanough said..... end of discussion.... ok you still want more? with the DS I had to buy good AA's or use rechargables, bad AA's die really fast, and if I did continous shooting then they could die even tho they were brand new. The battery life of the DS sucks, I always had to carry spare batteries. rechargable AA's recharge really slowly and I needed so many they cluttered up drawers and desks and I ended up loosing some here and there. with the k10d I have 2 batteries and they are always in the camera or, on rare occasion, in the charger. the k10d battery is not really expensive, if I had needed a spare or two I would have picked it up but since the battery life is so long I dont need to. I love the battery solution of the k10d and that is mainly becaue I had the DS and AA battery hell before that.

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