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11-16-2007, 08:05 AM   #16
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That explains allot to me..I have noticed that with some of my lenses and just thought it was my technique and my fat head was in the way some how..LOL..

I do have an external show mount flash (the 360) but since I don't often with flash, I hardly ever use it..Now I will keep this in mind...What a great tip and great thing to note..I suppose I really need to read the manual.

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QuoteOriginally posted by egordon99 Quote
Why would you spend upwards of $500 (or more) on great optics, and then use the underpowered non-bounceable built-in flash? If you care about image quality (which someone who buys the DA* lenses surely would), you should really invest in a nice hot-shoe flash.
(yep, I'm a flash snob )
ANSWER: Because the 4 flash units that I already own are all TTL units and won't work.
Pentax has a long history of backwards compatibility with lenses but screwed everyone who had flash units. Some such as my ringlite, they have yet to even offer a replacement for.

AT some point, I suppose I have to 'get over it' but now I'm Still seething.
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Don't often what with flash?

Flash can do wonders indoors (obviously) but can also help alot outdoors when dealing with harsh shadows or uneven lighting on subjects/backgrounds.

I have the 540, because I needed the extra power and it swivels. There is no way to do a ceiling bounce with a vertical shot with the 360 (unless you get the flash off the hotshoe somehow)

Yeah, I recommend you learn to "love the flash" especially since you already have a decent flash unit.

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I do have an external show mount flash (the 360) but since I don't often with flash, I hardly ever use it..
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Congratulations on the new toy, hope you post your opinions whether good or bad as I hope t be getting a K10D for Christmas

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QuoteOriginally posted by egordon99 Quote
Don't often what with flash?

Flash can do wonders indoors (obviously) but can also help alot outdoors when dealing with harsh shadows or uneven lighting on subjects/backgrounds.

I have the 540, because I needed the extra power and it swivels. There is no way to do a ceiling bounce with a vertical shot with the 360 (unless you get the flash off the hotshoe somehow)

Yeah, I recommend you learn to "love the flash" especially since you already have a decent flash unit.
I wanted the 540 but SAMYS was out when I went so I took the 360...In the little I have used it, I have never found to have needed more..If my understanding is correct, the only difference between the two is the side to side swivel...Am I correct?
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I am a bit jealous of you.

OK, OK, I hate you (a bit). There, happy now!?
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QuoteOriginally posted by jgredline Quote
I wanted the 540 but SAMYS was out when I went so I took the 360...In the little I have used it, I have never found to have needed more..If my understanding is correct, the only difference between the two is the side to side swivel...Am I correct?
The 540 also offers more flash power.

I wish Pentax offered something like Olympus's FL-36 -- very compact yet with both tilt and swivel. Slightly less powerful than Pentax's AF360FGZ, but covered most of what I needed.
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Here are some pics I took with my K10D and 360 flash unit...It was really dark, but the flash worked amazingly...
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well the problem with the 16-50 f/2.8 and the built in flash is that the front of the lens creates
a shadow in the center bottom of the photo
Happen to 16-45 f4 too
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Actually, I just wanted to see how bad the situation was. It's really quite simple. If you have a large diameter lens, it is in the way of the flash that is built in on the camera. I don't expect it to work very well with my SMCP-M 400/5.6 either. Even if I leave the lens hood retracted. Reading the specs, my minimum focusing distance is almost at the limit of the flash! (5 meters/16.5 feet).

The AF540FGZ is on backorder. Unfortunately. It will arrive one day, and I will use my AF500FTZ in non-TTL auto mode until then if I need a flash.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jgredline Quote
I wanted the 540 but SAMYS was out when I went so I took the 360...In the little I have used it, I have never found to have needed more..If my understanding is correct, the only difference between the two is the side to side swivel...Am I correct?
You left out the guide number - 54 vs 36.
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QuoteOriginally posted by rvannatta Quote
well the problem with the 16-50 f/2.8 and the built in flash is that the front of the lens creates
a shadow in the center bottom of the photo
Happen to 16-45 f4 too
On the 16-45mm F4, it only happens in the 16-28ish mm range, since the barrel extends as you zoom out.
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QuoteOriginally posted by pop4 Quote
On the 16-45mm F4, it only happens in the 16-28ish mm range, since the barrel extends as you zoom out.
I have a new flash on my Christmas list, but Christmas hasn't arrived. In the meantme I needed to take some flash photos inside a house and show construction progress. I found that my FA 17-28 Fish eye would work with the built in flash--though it isn't all that wide with a digital camera behind it.
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