Originally posted by DavidWebb I am a long time, if not lifetime, Canon shooter currently shooting with a Canon EOS 20D and a variety of lenses at different focal lengths. Ever since the K10D has come out though it has intrigued me. It seems to be a good "bang for your buck" proposition with the weather sealing, anti shake technology and the backwards compatibility with so many early Pentax lenses. It would be quite an ordeal at this point to switch my equipment over to Pentax, but I would be willing to do it if the return on investment of the effort would be worth it. (Honestly, just not owning Canon or Nikon in itself in appealing to me!)
I know that I am talking to a somewhat biased crowd here, but what would be the major advantages (or disadvantages) in your mind in converting my equipment to Pentax from my current stable of Canon equipment. I shoot mostly with Sigma lenses currently as they in a lot of cases are a better bang for your buck performance wise than their Canon counterparts. And I would be able to continue with Sigma if I switched to Pentax, which is a positive as well.
Fashion photographer Benjamin Kanarek, who is a member of this forum, switched rather publicly from Canon to Pentax about a year ago, in response, I think, to the release of the K10D. (Think I've got the time-frame roughly right.) You might Google his name and search for some his messages here. I have heard him talk about his reasons for switching and they were solid reasons, at least for him.
The Pentax K10D is an excellent camera -- a home run for Pentax. Rumor has it that Pentax will hit the ball out of the park next year with its follow-up to the K10D. I'm waiting to see.
But heck, Canon, makes great cameras, too. And whether a switch from a 20D to a Pentax K10D would make sense for you, I can't say, but I doubt it. If I were you, I'd be looking instead at a Canon 40D. The Pentax K10D does offer some advantages over your old Canon 20D, but the new 40D looks like a pretty nice camera. And while it's a fair bit more expensive than the Pentax K10D is right now, you'll save money by sticking with Canon as you'll be able to keep all your lenses.
Quote: ...It seems to be a good "bang for your buck" proposition with the weather sealing, anti shake technology and the backwards compatibility with so many early Pentax lenses.
I very much like the K10D's solid build, but the weather sealing is not a big deal for me. I'd say the same thing about the compatibility with old lenses. First, those old lenses are hard to come by. I thought that I'd be able to pick up, oh, superlong telephoto lenses for a song. That has definitely NOT turned out to be the case. Search keh.com for Pentax lenses. Slim pickings.
Addendum (I forgot "second"): Second, I don't much want film SLR lenses now, I want new digitally optimized lenses.
I would add also that I have doubts about shake reduction. Ironically, one of the main reasons I purchased a Pentax DSLR in the first place was that I'd owned Canon PowerShot S-series cameras for the previous several years, loved the long telephoto zooms and knew very well that the shake reduction built into those cameras was very valuable. When I was making my decision in 2006 about what DSLR to buy, I decided against Canon (and Nikon) because they didn't have shake reduction in the body and I was under the impression both (a) that I was going to miss it if I didn't have it and (b) that if I wanted it, it would cost me an arm and a leg to pay for shake reduction in every lens I purchased. Well, I think I was mistaken about some things. I sold my Pentax K100D to buy the Pentax K10D, and then needed a second camera, so I reached back in time and bought a Pentax *ist DS, which lacks shake reduction. Turns out it's not a problem for the vast majority of the shooting I do. I don't use long lenses with that camera and if I did, I'd use a tripod. But it's not a problem. I also realize now that, if I did own a Nikon, I would probably NOT be paying for VR in every lens, because I would not buy very many lenses that really needed VR. Final point, although the VR lenses may be a little more expensive for Canon and Nikon that similar Pentax-mount lenses without image stabilization, it also has surprised me to learn that many other good lenses for Nikon and Canon are actually cheaper than their Pentax counterparts. So I suspect the difference comes out in the wash.
If shake reduction in the body really were such a huge deal, either Nikon and Canon pros would be demanding it, or they'd be switching to Pentax or Olympus in larger numbers.
What I like about the K10D is something that's a bit hard to articulate. I like to think of it as a very
human camera. Like a human being, the K10D is not a specialist in its physical design. There are cameras with bigger sensors (and smaller sensors), faster shutters, better performance at high ISO, wi-fi connectivity, GPS, etc. But the K10D is pretty good at all the things that matter the most -- and it is smart. It's a smart piece of equipment. The designers seem to have anticipated the things I would want to do and put them all at my finger tips. I notice the difference when I shoot with my *ist DS or my Nikon N65 film SLR.
But mainly I like the K10D now because it's what I have now. If I had $10,000 on hand to start from scratch, I'd order a Nikon D3. I am pretty sure I'd be pleased with it. But I doubt my photos would be much better.
Quote: (Honestly, just not owning Canon or Nikon in itself in appealing to me!)
Yeah, I understand that. But thinking about the brand mystique cuts both ways. There are significant advantages to using Canon and Nikon, coming simply from the fact that those are the brands that everybody is always talking about. Anyway, I would not switch systems just because I felt bad about using the same brand as everybody else. If you do, and you really want to stick out, don't go to Pentax, which is a rather conservative choice. Go to Olympus.
The tech market has a very prurient dimension: the more we buy, the more we want to buy, until we're never satisfied with what we've got. I speak from painful personal experience. The devil has been taking me out to lunch lately, helping me walk the dog, sitting in the back seat of the car as I drive around, and everywhere we go, he's trying to get me to sell all my Pentax stuff and switch to Nikon. The reason I know it's the devil talking is not that it would be wrong for me to buy a Nikon camera. I know it's the devil because he never gives me any really solid reasons to switch -- it's mostly "Hey, Nikon is different", which boils down to "yellow is brighter than red". The other day I actually spent an hour thinking seriously about ordering a Nikon D40 before my guardian angel sobered me up and explained that the D40 would be a definite step down from the K10D. Anyway, I'm fighting off the temptation. I may indeed switch one day, but I hope that when I do, I have good reasons for doing so.
Good luck,
Will