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joe.penn · 11-02-2011, 03:41 PM

Originally posted by ofer4

Occupy Ricoh! Wait...huh?

What Is A Ricoh?

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vonBaloney · 11-02-2011, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by eddie1960

big deal, they are showing pentax users the Ricoh camera line, I would imagine on the Ricoh sites they are doing the opposite. The camera line is relevant. they could be pushing copiers

Aside from that there are a number of people on the forum who are intrigued by the GXR which won an award recently (that's what i noticed getting a push on FB BTW)

I would like to see every manufacturer go the way of the Ricoh with interchangeable/upgradeable sensor and other components instead of the digital bodies we have now that are essentially disposable after a few years...

RioRico · 11-02-2011, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by vonBaloney

I would like to see every manufacturer go the way of the Ricoh with interchangeable/upgradeable sensor and other components instead of the digital bodies we have now that are essentially disposable after a few years...

IMHO when Ricoh-Pentax releases affordable mountors, the game will change. Start with PK APS-C and FF mountors. Then EOS and NI mountors. Won't that be fun?

**Rondec** · 11-03-2011, 03:28 AM

I think the hardest thing for me is the lack of new information about what is going on on the SLR front. That isn't really Ricoh's fault. They just took over and probably will have little input into the projects that have been worked on for the last year. Still, it feels to me like there needs to be a lens road map coming back and some more plugging of holes in the lens line up. Redo the DA *16-50. Make the FA limiteds sealed and add quick shift. Add a telephoto.

I know everyone focuses on camera bodies, but it still feels to me like the Pentax line up is a little anemic.

**TomB_tx** · 11-03-2011, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by Rondec

I think the hardest thing for me is the lack of new information about what is going on on the SLR front. That isn't really Ricoh's fault. They just took over and probably will have little input into the projects that have been worked on for the last year. Still, it feels to me like there needs to be a lens road map coming back and some more plugging of holes in the lens line up. Redo the DA *16-50. Make the FA limiteds sealed and add quick shift. Add a telephoto.

I know everyone focuses on camera bodies, but it still feels to me like the Pentax line up is a little anemic.

I agree. The Pentax lens offerings seem quite skimpy, although I'm sure they concentrated on the popular range. But I'm used to the days of Asahi OPTICAL Co - where lenses were the meat of their offering. They used to offer something like 40 different lenses from under 20mm to 1000mm, with multiple choices of speed/cost at the popular focal lengths (4 different normal 50s, 3 different 28s & 35s, etc.)
When Nikon launched their first SLR (the F) in 1959 they offered a full range from 19-1000mm when they first introduced the camera. All the major players followed suit.

Of course, the shift to zoom lenses instead of single focal length has changed the landscape - but I still don't like zooms.

But now Pentax is an imaging company - whatever that means...

I bought my K-5 in spite of the weak line of lenses, in order to have a digital to use my old Pentax film lenses. If not for that I would have gone to Nikon.

Blue · 11-03-2011, 08:05 AM

Pentax has marketing in the U.S.A.?

reddmutt1898 · 11-03-2011, 08:13 AM

I have,and still own Ricoh slr bodies. I also would like to see a Ricoh dslr. It would compliment my Pentax bodies.

Parallax · 11-03-2011, 08:33 AM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by joe.penn

What Is A Ricoh?

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I think that's the place in New York City where the big jail is. Ricoh's Island. No, wait, that doesn't sound quite right............

Clavius · 11-03-2011, 08:35 AM

Originally posted by vonBaloney

I would like to see every manufacturer go the way of the Ricoh with interchangeable/upgradeable sensor and other components instead of the digital bodies we have now that are essentially disposable after a few years...

Really?!? You're hinting at the GXR system? With the sensors in the lens? That would make your lenses essentially disposable after a few years. I don't want to pay for 8 sensors, one in each lens. That's just as ridiculus as SR in the the lens.

eddie1960 · 11-03-2011, 08:56 AM

there is the m module where you buy the sensor and the mount Clavius, which addresses this issue
why not a k mount, an a mount, an eos mount .....it could easily be a game changing system at least in the MILC category
It could also stay as it is now a niche for performance oriented users looking for a way to use their m mount lenses
but as a system it presents an awful lot of opportunity, and as time goes on i imagine it will evolve

LFLee · 11-03-2011, 09:12 AM

A WR Ricoh K-mount GXR would be perfect.

Putting Ricoh name on Pentax brand "Pentax - a Ricoh Company" gives me the impression that Ricoh is committed to the Pentax brand. I tell myself that is a positive sign.

But I agree.... I am more of Pentax fan than a Ricoh fan.... so please keep 'Ricoh' name out on any Pentax coming SLR... (there isn't enough space on a camera to put Pentax/Ricoh name together though..)

Lee

kenafein · 11-03-2011, 09:13 AM

I understand you can buy new modules to expand your GXR functionality; but in a few years the main unit, which contains the display, controls and buffers will be obsolete. I guess then you'll buy a new unit and be able to use your old modules with it?

eddie1960 · 11-03-2011, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by kenafein

I understand you can buy new modules to expand your GXR functionality; but in a few years the main unit, which contains the display, controls and buffers will be obsolete. I guess then you'll buy a new unit and be able to use your old modules with it?

that of course is the million dollar question. I guess it depends on what is within the module versus the main unit
certainly i see no issue with the way it connects

vonBaloney · 11-03-2011, 10:14 AM

Not the GXR system specifically, and of course every once in a while you'll start from scratch with a whole new body, etc. But I would like to be able to upgrade the sensor and other components like we can do with computer motherboards, RAM, etc. Heck, even if it was the same sensor, imagine if you as a user could actually swap out a broken one yourself just by snapping it in there. The point would be not that the sensor came with the lens, but the opposite -- that lenses with different mounts and even different electronics (AF, etc) could essentially be configured one way or another to work with one base imaging system.

RioRico · 11-03-2011, 11:19 AM

IMHO modular systems like the GXR with mountors are a significant future path for photography. The mountor in effect becomes "digital film". Change the mountor and/or the body behind it and/or the lens in front of it. Use whichever components are suitable. The body just contains the infrastructure: power, controls, display. The mountors can contain any sensors with any mounts. I'm not sure where AF and SR go, and maybe Rictax/Pencoh haven't figured that out yet either. Do we have any secret insider information about this?

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11-02-2011, 03:41 PM	#16
joe.penn Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Maryland (Right Outside Washington DC) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,902	Originally posted by ofer4 Occupy Ricoh! Wait...huh? What Is A Ricoh? --

11-02-2011, 04:00 PM	#17
vonBaloney Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 6,029	Originally posted by eddie1960 big deal, they are showing pentax users the Ricoh camera line, I would imagine on the Ricoh sites they are doing the opposite. The camera line is relevant. they could be pushing copiers Aside from that there are a number of people on the forum who are intrigued by the GXR which won an award recently (that's what i noticed getting a push on FB BTW) I would like to see every manufacturer go the way of the Ricoh with interchangeable/upgradeable sensor and other components instead of the digital bodies we have now that are essentially disposable after a few years...

11-02-2011, 07:27 PM	#18
RioRico Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Limbo, California Posts: 11,263	Originally posted by vonBaloney I would like to see every manufacturer go the way of the Ricoh with interchangeable/upgradeable sensor and other components instead of the digital bodies we have now that are essentially disposable after a few years... IMHO when Ricoh-Pentax releases affordable mountors, the game will change. Start with PK APS-C and FF mountors. Then EOS and NI mountors. Won't that be fun?

11-03-2011, 03:28 AM	#19
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,666	I think the hardest thing for me is the lack of new information about what is going on on the SLR front. That isn't really Ricoh's fault. They just took over and probably will have little input into the projects that have been worked on for the last year. Still, it feels to me like there needs to be a lens road map coming back and some more plugging of holes in the lens line up. Redo the DA *16-50. Make the FA limiteds sealed and add quick shift. Add a telephoto. I know everyone focuses on camera bodies, but it still feels to me like the Pentax line up is a little anemic.

11-03-2011, 07:27 AM	#20
TomB_tx Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,446	Originally posted by Rondec I think the hardest thing for me is the lack of new information about what is going on on the SLR front. That isn't really Ricoh's fault. They just took over and probably will have little input into the projects that have been worked on for the last year. Still, it feels to me like there needs to be a lens road map coming back and some more plugging of holes in the lens line up. Redo the DA *16-50. Make the FA limiteds sealed and add quick shift. Add a telephoto. I know everyone focuses on camera bodies, but it still feels to me like the Pentax line up is a little anemic. I agree. The Pentax lens offerings seem quite skimpy, although I'm sure they concentrated on the popular range. But I'm used to the days of Asahi OPTICAL Co - where lenses were the meat of their offering. They used to offer something like 40 different lenses from under 20mm to 1000mm, with multiple choices of speed/cost at the popular focal lengths (4 different normal 50s, 3 different 28s & 35s, etc.) When Nikon launched their first SLR (the F) in 1959 they offered a full range from 19-1000mm when they first introduced the camera. All the major players followed suit. Of course, the shift to zoom lenses instead of single focal length has changed the landscape - but I still don't like zooms. But now Pentax is an imaging company - whatever that means... I bought my K-5 in spite of the weak line of lenses, in order to have a digital to use my old Pentax film lenses. If not for that I would have gone to Nikon.

11-03-2011, 08:05 AM	#21
Blue Moderator Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Florida Hill Country Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,377	Pentax has marketing in the U.S.A.?

11-03-2011, 08:13 AM	#22
reddmutt1898 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Gilmer,Texas. Photos: Gallery Posts: 36	I have,and still own Ricoh slr bodies. I also would like to see a Ricoh dslr. It would compliment my Pentax bodies.

11-03-2011, 08:33 AM - 1 Like	#23
Parallax Senior Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Dakota Photos: Gallery Posts: 19,333	Originally posted by joe.penn What Is A Ricoh? -- I think that's the place in New York City where the big jail is. Ricoh's Island. No, wait, that doesn't sound quite right............

11-03-2011, 08:35 AM	#24
Clavius Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: De Klundert Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,150	Originally posted by vonBaloney I would like to see every manufacturer go the way of the Ricoh with interchangeable/upgradeable sensor and other components instead of the digital bodies we have now that are essentially disposable after a few years... Really?!? You're hinting at the GXR system? With the sensors in the lens? That would make your lenses essentially disposable after a few years. I don't want to pay for 8 sensors, one in each lens. That's just as ridiculus as SR in the the lens.

11-03-2011, 08:56 AM	#25
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	there is the m module where you buy the sensor and the mount Clavius, which addresses this issue why not a k mount, an a mount, an eos mount .....it could easily be a game changing system at least in the MILC category It could also stay as it is now a niche for performance oriented users looking for a way to use their m mount lenses but as a system it presents an awful lot of opportunity, and as time goes on i imagine it will evolve

11-03-2011, 09:12 AM	#26
LFLee Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Southern California Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,292	A WR Ricoh K-mount GXR would be perfect. Putting Ricoh name on Pentax brand "Pentax - a Ricoh Company" gives me the impression that Ricoh is committed to the Pentax brand. I tell myself that is a positive sign. But I agree.... I am more of Pentax fan than a Ricoh fan.... so please keep 'Ricoh' name out on any Pentax coming SLR... (there isn't enough space on a camera to put Pentax/Ricoh name together though..) Lee

11-03-2011, 09:13 AM	#27
kenafein Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Southern California Photos: Albums Posts: 4,082	I understand you can buy new modules to expand your GXR functionality; but in a few years the main unit, which contains the display, controls and buffers will be obsolete. I guess then you'll buy a new unit and be able to use your old modules with it?

11-03-2011, 09:45 AM	#28
eddie1960 Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,667	Originally posted by kenafein I understand you can buy new modules to expand your GXR functionality; but in a few years the main unit, which contains the display, controls and buffers will be obsolete. I guess then you'll buy a new unit and be able to use your old modules with it? that of course is the million dollar question. I guess it depends on what is within the module versus the main unit certainly i see no issue with the way it connects

11-03-2011, 10:14 AM	#29
vonBaloney Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 6,029	Not the GXR system specifically, and of course every once in a while you'll start from scratch with a whole new body, etc. But I would like to be able to upgrade the sensor and other components like we can do with computer motherboards, RAM, etc. Heck, even if it was the same sensor, imagine if you as a user could actually swap out a broken one yourself just by snapping it in there. The point would be not that the sensor came with the lens, but the opposite -- that lenses with different mounts and even different electronics (AF, etc) could essentially be configured one way or another to work with one base imaging system.

11-03-2011, 11:19 AM	#30
RioRico Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Limbo, California Posts: 11,263	IMHO modular systems like the GXR with mountors are a significant future path for photography. The mountor in effect becomes "digital film". Change the mountor and/or the body behind it and/or the lens in front of it. Use whichever components are suitable. The body just contains the infrastructure: power, controls, display. The mountors can contain any sensors with any mounts. I'm not sure where AF and SR go, and maybe Rictax/Pencoh haven't figured that out yet either. Do we have any secret insider information about this?

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