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11-04-2011, 11:09 AM   #16
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QuoteOriginally posted by elho_cid Quote
Why does people here suggest cheap lenses, even if the OP asks for the best?
Because the most expensive gear isn't necessarily the best for any specific application, else we'd all be shooting Leica.
Because good cheap gear may give results as good as or better than more expensive gear -- try an enlarger lens.
Because 'best' is a vague term -- best at what, for what, with what? And MY idea of best may not match YOUR idea.
Because the OP didn't say what type of portraiture; in much portraiture, the lens DOES NOT MATTER as much as lighting.
Because different shooters at different times look for different qualities in a lens, whatever the price.
Because sometime 95% of "the best" only costs 25% as much.

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Im also happy when I get a good lens on bargain, but let's face it, there is no such thing as cheap AF portrait prime.
Those who use bargain AF macro lenses for portraits might disagree with you.

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And there are people out here willing to pay for the luxury of autofocus.
Quite so. I luxuriate with my 12 AF lenses. And with my 214 others. For some applications, AF is a necessity not a luxury. But portraiture of non-hyperactive subjects doesn't usually require AF, just as close macro is better in MF.

I've mentioned before than my favorite people-shooting lens is an old M42 Sears-Tokina 55-135/3.5 that cost me all of US$8 shipped. It is not for candid street shots. It is a portrait lens. It is not for all portraits. Sometimes the Komine 28/2 CFWA or K50/1.2 or FA50/1.4 or Vivitar-LU 75/3.5 or Jupiter-9 85/2 or Meyer Trioplan 100/2.8 or TDC VIVID Anastigmat 127/3.5 are indicated. It depends on how I want the images to look. One size does not fit all.


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11-04-2011, 11:34 AM   #17
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Well, just to my likes:

FA*85mm
DA*55mm
DA*50-135mm

Some other's that are mentioned are also very nice. FA Ltd. series (31mm, 43mm and 77mm) and DA Ltd. series 40mm and 70mm.

Even better is to buy a K-5 for the better image quality.

FA*85mm/f1.4:


DA*55mm/f1.4:


DA*50-135mm/f2.8:


DA 40mm/f2.8 Ltd.:

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QuoteOriginally posted by RonHendriks1966 Quote
Well, just to my likes:

DA*50-135mm/f2.8:


Yeah if you want a full chest portrait, you may need something wider than 70 :P
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OK, Ron, great, I just got my K-5, so all I have to do is get the lenses you have, and all my shots will look like yours, right?

Seriously though, do you have a blog or website or something for me to look at to try and learn from what you do? It's always extremely impressive.

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OK, Ron, great, I just got my K-5, so all I have to do is get the lenses you have, and all my shots will look like yours, right?

Seriously though, do you have a blog or website or something for me to look at to try and learn from what you do? It's always extremely impressive.
I'm working on it. Just last week claimed a new websiteadress for my sportsimages, but still have to look into a format to display my pictures, organised by different sports.
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Yeah if you want a full chest portrait, you may need something wider than 70 :P
I'm just wondering why a fully clothed woman was wearing a swim cap and goggles. Not a bad point of view, though. I will admit that. Not bad at all.
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I'm just wondering why a fully clothed woman was wearing a swim cap and goggles. Not a bad point of view, though. I will admit that. Not bad at all.
It was a dance-event in a park.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Don From The Radio Quote
Not a bad point of view, though. I will admit that. Not bad at all
Ya, a great view



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Great examples, Ron.

Rio - I don't want to argue with you, but the OP wrote he wants a AF+AE lens. I agree that AF is not always necessary, but I'm not going to persuade the OP that he made a bad choce by buying an AF capable DSLR and wants to use this feature.
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Depends on what kind of portrait, for studio at f8, I have find the kit zoom plenty good even for large prints. I would check AF if you have found the kit zoom lacking for portrait.
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Some great points already posted in this thread, there is no easy answer to "what is the best portrait len?".
Everyone has different tastes and needs regarding to focal lenght/subject distance and the way certain lenses render images etc..

Ive been really happy with the Sigma 30mm f/1.4, FA43, DA*55, FA77
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FA43-


DA*55-


FA77-
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QuoteOriginally posted by TOUGEFC Quote
Some great points already posted in this thread, there is no easy answer to "what is the best portrait len?".
Everyone has different tastes and needs regarding to focal lenght/subject distance and the way certain lenses render images etc..

Ive been really happy with the Sigma 30mm f/1.4, FA43, DA*55, FA77
30mm-


FA43-


DA*55-


FA77-
All great shots, but that Sigma 30 keeps impressing me.
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All great shots, but that Sigma 30 keeps impressing me.
Thanks! Yes the Sigma 30 is a fantastic lens, it renders images with a very distinct 3D look.
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QuoteOriginally posted by elho_cid Quote
Rio - I don't want to argue with you, but the OP wrote he wants a AF+AE lens. I agree that AF is not always necessary, but I'm not going to persuade the OP that he made a bad choce by buying an AF capable DSLR and wants to use this feature.
Nothing to argue about. I was just pointing out alternatives that might not have been apparent. And again, it depends on what is meant by 'portrait'. I'll posit that much floral and architectural and pet photography is also portraiture. A portrait portrays character (hopefully). Fast-moving characters need AE+AF. Slowpokes really don't. Maybe it's like the difference between fast-food and a slow-roasted shank of something, eh?
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Thank you for all of the great replies. I suppose I should clarify a few things.

The lighting will be in a studio with mostly strobes.

I like AF because ever since I got my bifocals, I just cant seem to manually
focus correctly (cant seem to shoot pool any more either, lol).

By "best" I meant image quality (but not at an astronomical price).

When I look at some of the photos that you guys have provided,
my setup just doesnt seem to even come close in sharpness, image quality, etc. I've tried tweaking
various adjustments, like the AF parameters for each lens, but there is still just something lacking,
especially when I compare my photos to my old Minolta 35mm photos.

I'm not sure if there is something wrong with the camera, or if the lenses I have are not up to the task, or if the K20 is even capable of achieving
the results I am looking for.

Ron, perhaps I should get a K5, but if I do, and I use my current DA (18-55 and 55-300) lenses, would I still be in the same situation because
the lenses are the problem?
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