Originally posted by bossa This is how I see this: Perspective is a spatially relative perception that takes into account the entire image circle of a lens' projection whereas a central crop ignores the closer (side/up/down) parts of the image. Magnifying a central portion of an image's perspective 'flattens' the form as it removes other relevant and relative visual information. After you enlarge that the extra little bit to satisfy your viewing requirements it is a multiple of the crop factor and as such changes relative aspects of the image.. i.e. DOF. Nothing has really changed, in a way, but the scale of the viewing situation relative to your own physical size and eyesight resolving power. The reason it is so hard to understand is because it is not an absolute quantifiable effect.
You're confusing me even now. It is not like people are actually carrying around cameras of both formats with a huge bag of lenses and trying to figure out how to mimic the effect of one with the other. If someone has an APS-C, all they are going to see is what that format gives them. You make it sound like they need to be saying to themselves as they look through the viewfinder, "Ok, I must remember that the perspective is flattened here compared to some other thing I don't have. I'm losing visual cues and the effect that I have here is
different than that other thing. Must remember that. I don't know why, but I must." It's crazy. The difference between the two is that one is a cropped version of the other. THAT'S IT! That's the only difference, and everything else you guys are talking about is a logical consequence of that difference, but would only be relevant to that mythical person walking around with both formats and a big bag of lenses. Why in the world would a newbie need to hear about the *subjective* flattening of perspective (since it isn't really) compared to a format they don't have? That's going to make things clearer? Again, if you want to go there, that's fine, but I don't understand this resistance to starting out with a simple explanation of the ACTUAL technical difference between the two (one is a cropped version of the other). Until someone "gets" that, they have no hope of understanding the rest of this stuff that apparently they must be told or they'll be lost.
In real life, the difference only really matters when you are picking out a camera to begin with because you do have a choice now. And then what you need to know is for wide-angle stuff, you *might* have an easier time with FF because you have more lens choices. And *maybe* APS-C will be a bit better for telephoto because of the price/performance ratio of the resolution you're getting. Along with other considerations of available lenses, size and handling of the body, etc etc. But no one needs to think about "equivalence" when they are actually working with whichever format. And if someone is buying a FF, all this stuff wouldn't even be mentioned. No one says, "the perspective is unflattened with the camera because of the reverse crop factor".