A Revolt is Brewing - Part II

**LaurenOE** · 01-11-2012, 04:24 PM

A few months back I started a thread called a "Revolt is Brewing"

"I belong to several Pentax groups on Facebook in addition to being a member here. I want to say something to any Pentax overlords that are out there.

1) We "get it" that Ricoh bought Pentax.
2) If we wanted a Ricoh camera, we would have bought one.
3) Hoya didn't push/pimp their other (filters/glass/optical/etc) products on us.
4) Pentax didn't sell us their Binoculars or Medical equipment either.
5) Don't give in to anyone at Ricoh thinking that Pentaxians are just another group that can be marketed to.
6) Ricoh didn't buy a customer base that was fed up with Pentax products.

The Revolt is because I keep seeing Ricoh products showing up in Pentax press releases. If Ricoh thinks I'm going to switch that easy to their products, they are going to be mistaken."

Ok, now into Wednesday night, during the CES 2012, and all we have seen is the Ricoh GXR being pushed?

I suppose it might be time to make our voices heard a little LOUDER!

I've spoken up on Facebook. I've spoken up here. I've spoken up by being a 25+ year Pentaxian.

Can someone at Pentax please talk about DIGITAL SINGLE LENS REFLEX CAMERAS? You know, the market starting with the *istD that has kept Pentax around? What about LENSES!?! You know, the foundation for PENTAX QUALITY?!?!

Can someone over at Pentax please throw me a bone?!?!

**Lowell Goudge** · 01-11-2012, 05:07 PM

The reality is tha industry shows have lost their meaning. There is no need to make product releases or announcements in this format any longer when technology changes do not follow product show schedules. Stop moaning and wait, something will come

Mike Cash · 01-11-2012, 05:18 PM

Pentax is now a small division of something else. Get used to it.

Philoslothical · 01-11-2012, 06:50 PM

Not this again.

dgaies · 01-11-2012, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by Philoslothical

Not this again.

Oh yes, this again

audiobomber · 01-11-2012, 07:00 PM

I'm not joining the revolt, because it's stupid.

DaveHolmes · 01-11-2012, 07:04 PM

I'll wait for the revolution... And I'll get the picture.

**monochrome** · 01-11-2012, 07:58 PM

I don't want to change the world..

**LaurenOE** · 01-11-2012, 08:03 PM

I downloaded the K5 "CES2012" firmware. I guess I got my bone.

**Rondec** · 01-11-2012, 08:13 PM

I just feel like I need a little information -- something to let me know that there are new cameras in development, new lenses on the way, something to give a little excitement to the Pentax users. I mean, we are due, all that has happened is that everything has been either discontinued, or is on the way to being discontinued.

I don't believe that Ricoh bought Pentax for the K mount, though. Isn't the K mount in public domain right now? Anyone can make a k mount camera. The question is more if you have the technological know-how to produce one that meets the market requirements to compete. Ricoh didn't have that before. Now, maybe with Pentax engineers combined with them, they may be able to get there, but give us some news, already...!

JohnBee · 01-11-2012, 08:18 PM

I don't know anything about any revolt, but I am quite happy with my Pentax gear. So happy in fact that even if Pentax vanished off the face of the earth tomorrow, I'd likely keep shooting with my Pentax camera's for years to come.

Other than that, I hope to see some innovative things from Pentax/Ricoh in the near future. Though I won't be holding my breath 'til then either.

**LaurenOE** · 01-11-2012, 08:43 PM

We all know who is wearing the Red Slippers here.

I wish I could get a hold of those slippers, because all I would be saying is...

"There's no place like home, there's no place like home".

Alizarine · 01-11-2012, 08:45 PM

I wonder how Minolta loyalists back then thought during the time the company was fading into the night... or Kodak right now.

I wouldn't want to see Pentax go that way. Given the chance, I'd like to see my kids two decades or so from now shooting with a camera with "Pentax" labeled somewhere on it. I'm young and I would like to replace my trusty K-x with something new from Pentax in the future, to rave about how better it is than my K-x now, and finally hand my grandchildren a venerable Spotmatic or ME-series camera for heritage value, to tell stories about how great it was even before I was born, and how photography used to be. I've passed from the last days of film to digital and probably will see the end of Single Lens Reflex; I want to see Pentax live beyond those years.

Marketing has made the world a lot unlovable than it used to be... Back then, people made products to make a name, to build trust, to make a legacy, to make the world a better place. Now it's all just about money.

well that's just my view of things...

arnie0674 · 01-11-2012, 09:17 PM

Originally posted by LaurenOE

If Ricoh thinks I'm going to switch that easy to their products, they are going to be mistaken.

While I'm not about to revolt, I strongly agree with this statement. I'll continue buying lenses that fit my camera and cameras that fit my lenses, as long as they deliver the results I'm looking for. However, if I make a switch, it most certainly will not be to Ricoh.

**LaurenOE** · 01-11-2012, 09:45 PM

I went out to the 2012 CES Pentax YouTube video.

Youtu.be

1) The video is labeled as Pentax and all they talk about is the GXR
2) The guy in the video is wearing a Ricoh shirt and doesn't stop for a second and correct the woman doing the interview that it's a Ricoh and not a Pentax.
3) People don't know that Ricoh is the brain-trust behind the GXR and will think it was a Pentax idea, and further damage the Pentax name.
4) The last bit of Pentax credibility is being traded off over the GXR.

I can't believe no one is protecting the Pentax brand!

Go out to the YouTube video and SAY SOMETHING!

01-11-2012, 04:24 PM	#1
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690	A Revolt is Brewing - Part II A few months back I started a thread called a "Revolt is Brewing" "I belong to several Pentax groups on Facebook in addition to being a member here. I want to say something to any Pentax overlords that are out there. 1) We "get it" that Ricoh bought Pentax. 2) If we wanted a Ricoh camera, we would have bought one. 3) Hoya didn't push/pimp their other (filters/glass/optical/etc) products on us. 4) Pentax didn't sell us their Binoculars or Medical equipment either. 5) Don't give in to anyone at Ricoh thinking that Pentaxians are just another group that can be marketed to. 6) Ricoh didn't buy a customer base that was fed up with Pentax products. The Revolt is because I keep seeing Ricoh products showing up in Pentax press releases. If Ricoh thinks I'm going to switch that easy to their products, they are going to be mistaken." Ok, now into Wednesday night, during the CES 2012, and all we have seen is the Ricoh GXR being pushed? I suppose it might be time to make our voices heard a little LOUDER! I've spoken up on Facebook. I've spoken up here. I've spoken up by being a 25+ year Pentaxian. Can someone at Pentax please talk about DIGITAL SINGLE LENS REFLEX CAMERAS? You know, the market starting with the *istD that has kept Pentax around? What about LENSES!?! You know, the foundation for PENTAX QUALITY?!?! Can someone over at Pentax please throw me a bone?!?!

01-11-2012, 07:58 PM	#8
monochrome Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Working From Home Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 26,276	I don't want to change the world.. Last edited by monochrome; 01-11-2012 at 09:55 PM.

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01-11-2012, 05:07 PM	#2
Lowell Goudge Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Toronto Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 17,887	The reality is tha industry shows have lost their meaning. There is no need to make product releases or announcements in this format any longer when technology changes do not follow product show schedules. Stop moaning and wait, something will come

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Philoslothical Veteran Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,889	Not this again.

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dgaies Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Maryland / Washington DC Posts: 3,917	Originally posted by Philoslothical Not this again. Oh yes, this again

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01-11-2012, 08:03 PM	#9
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690 Original Poster	I downloaded the K5 "CES2012" firmware. I guess I got my bone.

01-11-2012, 08:13 PM	#10
Rondec Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Gladys, Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 27,653	I just feel like I need a little information -- something to let me know that there are new cameras in development, new lenses on the way, something to give a little excitement to the Pentax users. I mean, we are due, all that has happened is that everything has been either discontinued, or is on the way to being discontinued. I don't believe that Ricoh bought Pentax for the K mount, though. Isn't the K mount in public domain right now? Anyone can make a k mount camera. The question is more if you have the technological know-how to produce one that meets the market requirements to compete. Ricoh didn't have that before. Now, maybe with Pentax engineers combined with them, they may be able to get there, but give us some news, already...!

01-11-2012, 08:18 PM	#11
JohnBee Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Newrfoundland Photos: Albums Posts: 4,667	I don't know anything about any revolt, but I am quite happy with my Pentax gear. So happy in fact that even if Pentax vanished off the face of the earth tomorrow, I'd likely keep shooting with my Pentax camera's for years to come. Other than that, I hope to see some innovative things from Pentax/Ricoh in the near future. Though I won't be holding my breath 'til then either.

01-11-2012, 08:43 PM	#12
LaurenOE Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Back in Florida, but worldwide gigs! Photos: Albums Posts: 3,690 Original Poster	We all know who is wearing the Red Slippers here. I wish I could get a hold of those slippers, because all I would be saying is... "There's no place like home, there's no place like home".

01-11-2012, 08:45 PM	#13
Alizarine Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Manila Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 2,185	I wonder how Minolta loyalists back then thought during the time the company was fading into the night... or Kodak right now. I wouldn't want to see Pentax go that way. Given the chance, I'd like to see my kids two decades or so from now shooting with a camera with "Pentax" labeled somewhere on it. I'm young and I would like to replace my trusty K-x with something new from Pentax in the future, to rave about how better it is than my K-x now, and finally hand my grandchildren a venerable Spotmatic or ME-series camera for heritage value, to tell stories about how great it was even before I was born, and how photography used to be. I've passed from the last days of film to digital and probably will see the end of Single Lens Reflex; I want to see Pentax live beyond those years. Marketing has made the world a lot unlovable than it used to be... Back then, people made products to make a name, to build trust, to make a legacy, to make the world a better place. Now it's all just about money. well that's just my view of things...

01-11-2012, 09:17 PM	#14
arnie0674 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Photos: Albums Posts: 173	Originally posted by LaurenOE If Ricoh thinks I'm going to switch that easy to their products, they are going to be mistaken. While I'm not about to revolt, I strongly agree with this statement. I'll continue buying lenses that fit my camera and cameras that fit my lenses, as long as they deliver the results I'm looking for. However, if I make a switch, it most certainly will not be to Ricoh.