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12-27-2007, 11:44 PM   #1
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k100d Super: Body only or w/ lens kit?

seems like prices dropped for the k100d super. beach camera has the body only for $429($329 after rebate) and BHphoto has it w/ the lens kit for $499.95($399.95 after rebate). is there a reason why i should get the 18-55mm lens kit if i plan on getting either a pentax or tamron 18-250mm lens? should i save the $70 and get the body only? thanks for any suggestions/comments.

12-28-2007, 12:50 AM   #2
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QuoteOriginally posted by joeboo Quote
seems like prices dropped for the k100d super. beach camera has the body only for $429($329 after rebate) and BHphoto has it w/ the lens kit for $499.95($399.95 after rebate). is there a reason why i should get the 18-55mm lens kit if i plan on getting either a pentax or tamron 18-250mm lens? should i save the $70 and get the body only? thanks for any suggestions/comments.
I'd surmise not a whole lot. your speeds are about the same. IF I was 2 own just 2 lenses
it wouldn't be those 2.

If total cost is an issue matching the kit lens with the DA 50-200 makes a good 2 lens combination. Alternate choices for a second lens to pair with an 18-250 incude
either a wide angle such as the DA 14mm or the DA 12-24mm.

another approach besides wider or longer, would be 'faster'. --- Once you use the 1 lens solution for a while---take a look at what focal lengths you actually use the most, and
look for a 'fast' lens in that range.

If you find that you actually do a lot of telephoto type shots you will quickly wish
for something faster on the long end. the F 6.3 speed on the long end becomes severely limiting when the light gets bad, but everyone has different tastes. --- I'd start with the 1 lens solution, and then leverage that experience into where I wanted to go next.

there is no 'right answer', just opinions and your habits and desires are what matters.
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Not really an easy question ... the 18-250 has a decent range ... and I guess getting this first and trying it out to see where you do the majority of your shooting (which focal length is most used ) ... then you can further purchase a faster lens in that range.

The 18-250 lens isn't thet fastest ... but it is a good walk around lens with a good range ... if you want to capture images without having to carry around a heap of lenses ... this is good.

I started with the 18-55mm kit lens and had it for ages ... and I got bored quickly of it ... I wanted longer and wish i had purchased a longer lens straight up so i could shoot more.
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The kit lens is a hard value to beat for $70. It's higher quality than typical kit lenses of that range. No one is made of money anymore, but a savings of $70 doesn't bring you that much closer to the 18-250. Personally, I'd save the kit lens as a spare. You just never know when you may need one.

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joeboo,

There are many that knock the attributes of the 18-55 kit lens.

My personal experience with the lens is that it is quite capable of taking very high end images if the photographer uses the lens correctly by stopping down a stop or two. It is one of the better kit lenses on the market from any maker. As to increaxsing the focal length for your camera. The compact and light 50-200 DA is not a bad choice. It is compact and lightweight and does have pretty good resolution.

If you patiently watch the marketplace on this forum you can probably pick up this lens for 165 or so in "like new" condition.

Good luck with your decision.

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If you can get DA 18-55 as a kit lens to K100D take it. It's not the best lens ever made, but I had it as my main lens for over year, and couldn't complain a lot... for $70 I'd sure get it. You never know when it'll be usefull and for that money it's good to have it on your side...
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I agree with the above posters. For the extra $70 you can't go wrong. If you don't like it, or don't need it, sell it here for $60 or so and the $10 will be well spent!
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If price is an issue, get the kit lens. If not, put that $$ toward something else.

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I'd vote for getting the kit lens. I was on the fence too re that, but now I find myself using the kit lens quite a bit. In good light it produces exceptional images, better than I expected.

I think the 18-250 or 200 zoom range you're considering is extremely convenient, but I'm finding also that some inexpensive manual or A primes are sharper, if more work. You can go that route, too, kit lens followed by several used manual primes.
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You could probably cover that range with two primes. The A28/2.8 and the M50/1.7. You can even go with the A50/2. I found it on eBay for $25 shipped today. At that price, it's a steal. Sure, it's one stop slower than the 1.7, but it's also less than half its price. Then, when you can afford better lenses, I would go with those.
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The kit lens is a good deal and I still tend to use it.

IMHO get the kit.

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Get the Body as cheap as you can and pick up a kit lens on ebay for 50 bucks and get a Tamron 18-250 for 450.00 and find a 50mm 1.7 or a 1.4 manual for under a 100 bucks and u should be set.
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