OK fogel70, I guess they keeping the bodies which is alot of the tooling. I thought the *ists were different bodies back when i played with them. they had the right naming idea. Then i saw them take a step backwards in the models after the k200d...perhaps i was assuming they were modifying too much. But their were other, non outsourced, improvements in most of those model changes.
Originally posted by Fogel70 ....For Pentax, K200D was an exception, but I guess they realized that the design of this camera was too expensive to manufacture so if the kept that design they would not be able to keep up with competition....
And your guess that the k200d was too expensive to make a profit is the likely explanation for dropping that body. Unfortunate but likely. Too bad they wend backwards in quality construction. i love that thing.
Originally posted by SpecialK Well, flagship usually means top of the line, not near the entry level.
'Flagship' does often refer to top of the line but my friends who were or are in advertising use 'flagship' to mean the product that will be a symbol of the brand. Most often the top of the line. But i could see that not working in cameras. In this field, the pros will upgrade every year or 2 and will research all the new features and will CRAVE that top of the line specs and will remember the many model names. Suave should give them new model names, they can handle it. But those on the bottom and newbees coming into the field more need the basics, look only at pixels and picture quality (in low light) and can remember limited names. (like: rebel). If your intro camera keeps its name for many years (changing only a suffix) and is SUPER WELL BUILT it could be a flagship.
WillsWing for instance has a high tech fancy hang glider come out with a new name every 1-4 years. TOP OF THE LINE. but their flagship is the mid level or almost entry level glider. (sport, super sport, ultra sport...) It is boasts simplistic quality and safety and a couple solid features for performance but not much more. They all land the same. R&D is minimal (same frame, same joints, very little changes). I think that is what made them the biggest glider company. Flashy name changes could be correlated to the fancy improvements in the high high performance wings and that only mattered to those who could afford them and knew how to handle them. While the brand name came from a high quality entry level glider that rarely changed and was likely the bread and butter for the company.
Originally posted by SpecialK The "give me a simple DSLR" thread is active elsewhere, with underwhelming enthusiasm.
I am not looking for affirmation. I am looking for a % or $ value. I wanted an unbiased estimate.
But...yes...you have me pegged.
Originally posted by Fogel70 ...One thing you must realize is that removing features from a camera will not make it much cheaper to manufacture, but it might limit user base. So it is a risk that a simple feature-less camera will be more expensive for end users than a feature-rich camera....
yes, I realized this, i am aware. and surely pentax is too.
I am not thinking i came up with a winning business strategy I am curious as to how much is saved in R&D, retooling and manufacturing if they did this.
Originally posted by alohadave ....it's not only sensor technology that is updated and improved on with new models.
Ergonomics, image processor, AF, Lens technology, flash, storage, display, etc
There is a lot more to a camera than the sensor.
YEAH. that is my question. those other things don't have to be updated with a new sensor (ok image processing does and soft/firmware). If rico or suave or whoever had a low level line that was not reengineerd each edition.... if it
only updated the component that it buys from sony, what is the relative amount saved compared to the average model upgrades we have seen in the last 12 years of pentax?