Originally posted by eddie1960 cost of the 24mp sensor will be the determining factor. Sony will not be able to price a 24mp in the territory of the D800/800E. if they do they will fail. the improvement look good on the camera but it's not a direct competitor for canikon without a pro network . I would peg the Sony at $2200-2500, So certainly a unique offering from Pentax in that range should be doable provided Sony makes the sensor available (even if Pentax has to pay $50-75 more per sensor)
What matters most is how many consumers are willing to pay more than US$2,000 for a camera body.
The Nikon #'s say not that many. The total # of worldwide of FF purchasers over a 5 year cycle is probably somewhere just over 2-2.5 million from Nikon, Canon, Sony, and Leica.
How can Pentax get larger than 5% of the pie? What special incentive does Pentax have over Canon or Nikon or Sony or Leica? All they have is their installed base.
So the Pentax FF dilemma is trying to eke out profits at something like 15,000 units/year while still reeling in enough margin to continue development and fund the next model. Right now the FF development and release cycle is about 5 years, but if that shortens (a Sony thing) then they have a problem.
Then, based on those sales, how many FF lenses can be made and sold in such limited quantities?
And which sensor? If it's not Sony, it has be IQ equivalent or people will leave Pentax for better IQ anyway. The 24MP Sony (A99) sensor may be a cost driver, but we'll have to see. Sony has been bleeding red ink so are hungry for margins from....anywhere. I cannot see Sony driving FF down to commodity price levels, so the US$,2000/unit barrier is still in place.
Let's not forget rumours of a Nikon D750 with perhaps that 24MP sensor as well. I'm not sure about that. What I do see is FF perhaps inching down in price starting early 2013. By 2014 it may be enough to drive volume sales at bodies lower than $2,000, especially if APS-C sales peak and plateau.
Sourcing a sensor (March 29, 2012):
"Just my two cent speculation: It sounds like the Sony-Nikon sensor partnership works that way: In the APS-C league Sony has a six months exclusive use of the sensor and after that time shares it to Nikon. Full Frame sensors are sold with a 6-12 months exclusivity to Nikon and can than be used by Sony cameras." sonyalpharumors | Home
I suspect (as does Thom Hogan) that some agreement like this is true, although I'd not put numbers to it. I suspect there are co-design license agreements, blah, blah, blah.
A lot of things have to line up for Pentax FF starting with the volume to price ratio. The sensor and its price starts a chain of business logic.
For all the speculation and media chatter, FF is still a very small market. It requires even large corporations like Nikon and Sony to cooperate for economies of scale. And even then the FF bodies are $3,000-$6,000/unit.