Originally posted by Lowell Goudge This poll is hopelessly flawed.
The reason is simple, while it will measure the response of people desparately thinking they need full frame, it ignores the larger population of people who dont care/want full frame.
lets be clear about things here
Full frame is mostly sought after by those who want to shoot ultra fast lenses wide open. For me, they are somewhat wrong in their thinking, because unless they are in full control of the lighting and the shooting situation, shooting at F1.2 or F1.4 requires insanely high shutter speeds, because the camera cannot go low enough in ISO.
My solution for the times I want full frame is really simple, for those rare occasions, i put a roll of film (you remember what that was don't you?) into my PZ-1 and off I go.
you should add, to the poll at least the following two points.
I dont want full frame, and I am satisfied shooting film when I need/want full frame
Edit note. Just to make my objection clear here, while you may be interested in full frame only users the concern I have is with respect to the use of the poll. At some point it will be dragged up to show how many people / percentage of people have switched and with it the implied loss of market share by pentax. It needs to be grounded with the reality that a very large number of shooters are not searching for a canikon beating full frame, and that while this does imply some potential miogration away from the brand, that is a very small percentage of pentax's current market share. If the poll proves this point wrong, then it justifies potentially the development of a full frame, so lets have the proper poll so that if you really want pentax to listen, they can see the share of those who feel it is needed and wanted. I could be wrong in my assessment but I don't think so
Indeed, film is still an option but for a lot of people, doing film is quite expensive, except if you have access to a lab.
I know a certain number who'd love to use film but the costs or not having a lab holds them back.
If you are pro, you can bill this to the client, no problem. Because you define your price in relation with your costs.
But if you are not pro, or on the way to, you do some things for free, in order to have a solid book and I couldn't afford doing things for free in film.
This is the reason I put this poll in the DSLR section and not SLR. If film were cheaper or if I could add a lab in my flat, I would buy me a 645 or an old blad (have a K1000 too).
So this poll is not asking for people using film to answer the poll. No offense
Doesn't exclude they can participate in the discussion.
For the option "I don't want full frame" well, it is kind of unnecessary because this poll is only adressed to those who want a FF. Hence the title of this post.
No offense again
I agree this will leave out the majority who doesn't want a FF but this is not the point of the poll. The major point is to find out how many switched already.
An additional info is that this will count the number of people who would like a FF. This question is already answered by the petition (3000+ ?) but I thought it could be
useful to have a graph that has all in one (concerning FF). In the petition, there weren't any people saying they don't care. Here it's the same ^^
I also know that this will exclude all those who switched and don't come back to pentaxforums... but that's the game.
I have my reasons for wanting a FF. Not using superfast lenses at f1.2 or so, I need that anyway. Because I do a lot of shooting in low light conditions so the extremely high shutterspeeds are not my problem.
Some people buy FF (they probably don't even know the difference between APS-C and FF) because they have money and want the most expensive thing. I've seen a lot of those people.
They're not good photographers but they don't care or worse, think they are really good ones. They have the best and they like it and for them, it's the better the camera, the better the pictures
(yes, I agree it can help but the K5 is not FF, not excessively priced and yet an excellent performer).
Everyone has it's reason. Maybe you are right about the reason even if you don't need FF for that.
That's also the reason why I repeat several times to give reasons for switching or wanting FF.
About the point of not looking for a canikon beating FF, I agree. I was not looking for that too. Just wanted a reasonably priced (not 6.000 euro or dollar) FF. I want Pentax, but there is none.
So the only option for digital FF is switching. The additional questions are there to see where people are going, not to judge if Ca or Ni is better than Pentax.
This question has a universal everlasting answer and that's why we are all here :evil:
Maybe I should have added "if there will be a Pentax FF, I'll buy one" but at the end, it's the same as sticking with Pentax and waiting for one to come out, option 1, because you're a
potential Pentax FF buyer.
Any other remarks are welcome.. maybe we'll start it all over again with the good questions.. I'll keep following and note remarks in post 1 (but not now ^^ work to do).
If later we have a new poll-plan with questions that could satisfy every FF wanting person, we could do it over and maybe ask Adam for some support so more people could answer.
I want this poll to be usefull, not just another poll that will be lost over time.