Originally posted by Giklab TL;DR: APS-C will still be around for decades to come.
LONG VERSION: When I read these forums, I can't help noticing what the people who stand by APS-C tend to say to "justify" (for lack of better term) their decision to the Pro-FF folks:
-Smaller and lighter cameras
-Smaller and lighter lenses
this is a myth. look at the competition, and also within pentax full frame lenses of the 1990's are smaller and lighter than current full frame lenses, and for example, the DA300/4 is actually heavier than the K300/4 even though the DA has the advantage (?) of using plastics.
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-APS-C is "enough"/FF is "too much" for my needs
for the FF needs you do have, using a film body would be the way to go for a casual user. simply put, at about $0.25 per frame, for processing, you would need to take 8-10K shots that needed full frame "quality" what ever that is, to pay for a FF camera. casual users dont need it
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-APS-C will always be less expensive as a system.
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I find that all of the above apply to me too, but that's not the point of this post. What I want to discuss is how manufacturers will address these points.
CAMERA SIZE AND WEIGHT
If you remove features, such as controls, big bright viewfinders, large, powerful processors, additional LCDs, external connectors etc. you quickly shrink camera bodies. And of course, pentamirror VFs instead of pentaprism ones shed a lot of weight.
but users for a full frame camera, or for that matter any camera WANT these
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LENS SIZE AND WEIGHT
Lens designs will improve, but FF-compatible lenses will ALWAYS be larger and heavier than APS-C lenses. How to save space and weight here? I predict f/5.6-8 lenses to appear in the future and be and be justified by "There's a FF sensor in the camera, that's more than enough to counter the small aperture.".
this is where you are dead wrong. look at lens design, there are really only 3 aspects except for ultra wide that define a lens shape.
1) maximum aperture,. No matter how you cut it, 200mm F2.8 needs a 77 mm filter to cover the front element. that fixes the front diameter of the lens, period
2) the lens mount determines the back dimension of the lens, period
3) the number of elements has a big impact on total weight, as designs get more optimized weight is driven up because we are adding more stuff between the front element and the mount.
Smaller image circle is irrelevant in lens weight, because for each element, even if you can use smaller ones, whether a rear element is 15 mm or 20mm makes little difference relitive to the 77mm monster up front. area is a function of the square of the diameter, and thickness goes up linear with diameter to allow for the same profile on a lens over a bigger area.
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APS-C will still be more affordable than FF, unless the whole industry switches to FF.Which it will not, considering there will have to be compact and mirrorless cameras (eg. micro4/3 and phones).
true, APS-C will be cheaper than full frame, the same way as 35mm is cheaper than medium format. there are two drivers here, one is cameras etc, but the bigger driver is lack of quantity. since APS-C will never disappear FF will never dominate today like 35 did in the past.