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09-18-2012, 04:58 PM   #31
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Nope. Cost/benefit favors the K5 and its successors. Now the 645 is interesting.

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No more SLRs for me. A FF MILC - yes.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Ex Finn. Quote
Good examples of different crop factors. So, if I choose to jump ship and go with the D800, not the -E. I would be looking at some Nikkor 24-? lens to start with. BTW, this would start a major model-war with my cousin , he is a die-hard Nikon person = the black sheep in the family.
Nikkor 24-70
Tamron 24-70
Tamron 28-75
Tamron 70-300

There's more but with a camera like that, and depending on your output needs, just a 35mm and a 85mm might do the trick if you're prepared to use the digital zoom (crop thing).

35mm @ 1x = 35
35mm @ 1.2x = 42
35mm @ 1.5x = 52.5

85mm @ 1x = 85
85mm @ 1.2x = 102
85mm @ 1.5x = 127.5

So ignoring the 4x5 format for the moment you get, in every practical sense except a fixed resolution, 6 lenses for two when you buy a D800 and two primes.


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QuoteOriginally posted by bossa Quote
Nikkor 24-70
Tamron 24-70
Tamron 28-75
Tamron 70-300

There's more but with a camera like that, and depending on your output needs, just a 35mm and a 85mm might do the trick if you're prepared to use the digital zoom (crop thing).

35mm @ 1x = 35
35mm @ 1.2x = 42
35mm @ 1.5x = 52.5

85mm @ 1x = 85
85mm @ 1.2x = 102
85mm @ 1.5x = 127.5

So ignoring the 4x5 format for the moment you, ostensibly, get 6 lenses for two when you buy a D800.
Damn you are fast in replying. I started to have cold feet, so I deleted my past post, I appreciate the info however. Nikon is still not out as an option, actually it is the only other option.

edit: Rugged construction and professional-grade dust and moisture resistance. The Nikon AF-S Nikkor 24-70mm f/2.8G ED looks pretty good. I must re-evaluate priorities.

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09-18-2012, 05:30 PM   #36
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Most certainly would, that is if you're referring to a DSLR, I could already buy an SLR.
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Pentax would have to bring out a model on par with the D800 sensor boasting D700 performance features to command that price point.

So no, not likely that I would pony up $2500+ for a Pentax FF. $1800 to $2000, probably. So long as it had a feature set at least as rich as the K-5 II.
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This is a response to the cropped image of a FF camera. Look what I can do with the K-5 with a sharp lens:




A crop of the same photo on flickr:




Need I say more?

I might buy a FF if the price was under $2,500.00 US.

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Super! What lens were you using on your K-5?

QuoteOriginally posted by traderdrew Quote
This is a response to the cropped image of a FF camera. Look what I can do with the K-5 with a sharp lens:




A crop of the same photo on flickr:




Need I say more?

I might buy a FF if the price was under $2,500.00 US.
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QuoteOriginally posted by traderdrew Quote
This is a response to the cropped image of a FF camera. Look what I can do with the K-5 with a sharp lens:




A crop of the same photo on flickr:




Need I say more?

I might buy a FF if the price was under $2,500.00 US.
I guess not.

What brand 500mm lens was that BTW?
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Nope, won't buy one anymore. I just bought me a used 5D that mounts my Pentax lenses just fine.
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QuoteOriginally posted by traderdrew Quote
This is a response to the cropped image of a FF camera. Look what I can do with the K-5 with a sharp lens:




A crop of the same photo on flickr:




Need I say more?

I might buy a FF if the price was under $2,500.00 US.
I'm wondering what this "response to the cropped image of a FF camera" is meant to show? Are you referring to my crop mode examples? None of those were anywhere near 100% crops (as your crop is) and were meant to only show the D800/E "Image Size" modes which are all crops apart from the standard FF res mode and which are built into the camera.

D800 Crop Modes:
1.0x = 36,152,320 pixels
1.2x = 25,067,520 pixels
1.5x = 15,360,000 pixels
4x5 = 30,179,328 pixels

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2500-3000USD is out of my price range, so that taken into consideration, no.
You can put all the reasoning aside about better bokeh, and beautiful viewfinders and the rest of it...
Just can't afford it, no way, no chance.

I don't like all the talk of posters saying that "Pentax aren't listening to us".
Who is "us"? Does "us" make up the majority of Pentax users?
The so-called lack do a Pentax FF has certainly divided the Pentax community, but I believe the overwhelming majority are satisfied with what they have and content to keep using it.
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QuoteOriginally posted by bossa Quote
I'm wondering what this "response to the cropped image of a FF camera" is meant to show? Are referring to my crop mode examples? None of those were anywhere near 100% crops (as your crop is) and were meant to only show the D800/E "Image Size" modes which are all crops apart from the standard FF res mode and which are built into the camera.

D800 Crop Modes:
1.0x = 36,152,320 pixels
1.2x = 25,067,520 pixels
1.5x = 15,360,000 pixels
4x5 = 30,179,328 pixels
Hi Bossa, I apologize for stepping on your toes. I understand your point about using a FF camera with lenses compatible with a FF and with an APS-C. It's like you have two different lenses when you have two different cameras. It seems to me I can do the same thing with most prime lenses from Sigma and Pentax with the exemption of a achieving a very shallow depth of field with an APS-C.

I didn't know Nikon had built in cropping in their FF camera.

The lens was the Sigma 500mm F/4.5. There are other primes in my collection that are practically just as sharp such as the 100mm macro WR
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Yes I would buy a Pentax FF but I m not in any hurry. I can wait.
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