Originally posted by elliott What is the cheapest lens from Nikon with WR, anything close to the 18-55mm WR for under $200? I tried looking, but it isn't exactly a feature they draw attention to. I have heard that their lenses that have the rubber seal around the mount may not be fully sealed, they will keep water out of the body, but not the lens.
Common argument and a strawman.
Why would I want to use a lower grade kit lens? Your argument doesn't work for me because I would like to use the highest quality lenses I can and invest in them. I'm actually getting PAID for my work now, so what reason would I have to risk that, to risk my mentor's reputation (who is a very well-known concert photographer), to use a kit lens to satisfy an internet forum argument where it's not about photography and it's everything about spec sheets?
Most arguments on this forum will tell people immediately to get rid of the kit lens, but here, since it fits this precise argument, the cheap kit lens is now valid again?
You're right; Nikon doesn't draw attention to it like Olympus has done for over a decade, like Pentax only started really whoring out in the last few years. It doesn't mean that one should lie for the sake of winning an e-argument on consumer products. This is what I hate about brand-based forums for any kind of product group. People stop being rational, they start lying about the competitors, and the arguments pull out strawmen.
I'm sure that 18-55 was being bashed in other places, but in this context, it's an advantage? It barely exposes how good the K-5 sensor really is. In some cases, even the older FA lenses are a step behind how good the sensor is, but now the kit lens is good enough?
Regardless, that is what makes the two cameras similar. I chose Pentax, but I could have easily chosen Canon, Nikon, or any mirrorless offerings if they fit what I was looking for. In that light, the Sony Nex 5n/6 are very enticing, especially with the Zeiss lenses.