Pentax/Ricoh: De-cripple the K-mount! PETITION

Mr Manual · 01-09-2013, 03:43 PM

What a great idea. Might we one day see a FF de-crippled K-mount.

froeschle · 01-16-2013, 10:08 AM

The next opportunity to share this with Pentax/Ricoh is at CP+ (31.1.-3.2.2013, Pacifico Yokohama Japan): CP+ CAMERA & PHOTO IMAGING SHOW 2013

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/212069-pentaxforums-cp...ml#post2242598

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198 #-301 Mr Manual (What a great idea. Might we one day see a FF de-crippled K-mount.)
199 ???
200 ???

**mattt** · 01-16-2013, 04:29 PM

Add my name.

macTak · 01-17-2013, 04:00 AM

I would love to see this as well.

froeschle · 01-17-2013, 07:48 AM

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199 #-303 mattt (Add my name.)
200 #-304 macTak (I would love to see this as well.)

**PPPPPP42** · 01-18-2013, 06:08 PM

De cripple, the used market is running out of A lenses and meanwhile the M and K stuff is less than half the price but not worth the fuss of using for me on the "modern" DSLR's.
I wouldn't even bother with Pentax if not for backwards compatibility so this is kinda a big deal.

GordonD · 01-19-2013, 04:49 PM

I have a collection of A series lenses and would like to use them with a de-crippled mount. My K-5 does a great job using the A lenses but it is missing that extra function.
It will be much more important to me on a Pentax full frame DSLR so please make sure the mount is complete with aperture setting ring.

Gray · 01-20-2013, 09:11 AM

Yes! The cripped K-mount severely weakens Pentax's claim to K-mount backward compatibility. Now imagine how compelling a FF dSLR with uncrippled KAF2 mount will be to owners of 35mm classic lenses will be.

**JimJohnson** · 01-20-2013, 11:00 AM

I've mentioned this before, but the sucess or failure of this petition lies on how Pentax/Ricoh views its company. If that view is that Pentax's primary interest is in selling camera bodies, I think it has a good chance of success. On the other hand, if that view is primarily that Pentax/Richoh is a seller of lens, it is in their interest to allow only enough backwards compatibility to retain its body of Pentax enthusiasts.

If we Pentax owners want to see this functionality in Pentax cameras, we need to assure Pentax that we will buy enough bodies to offset the potentially softer sales of its current production lenses.

I've owned a K-r for just over one year and haven't come close to maximizing its capabilities, yet at the same time I've already started looking for ways to budget another Pentax camera.

drougge · 01-20-2013, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by JimJohnson

I've mentioned this before, but the sucess or failure of this petition lies on how Pentax/Ricoh views its company. If that view is that Pentax's primary interest is in selling camera bodies, I think it has a good chance of success. On the other hand, if that view is primarily that Pentax/Richoh is a seller of lens, it is in their interest to allow only enough backwards compatibility to retain its body of Pentax enthusiasts.

If we Pentax owners want to see this functionality in Pentax cameras, we need to assure Pentax that we will buy enough bodies to offset the potentially softer sales of its current production lenses.

Either way they could be better served by having bodies with uncrippled mounts. if someone likes old lenses (like I do), they're currently better served buying a Nikon body, which doesn't cripple the old lenses in any way at all (assuming you buy an even moderatly expensive body, D7000 for example). Someone who buys a Nikon body isn't going to buy any Pentax lenses, or any other Pentax products either. (Possibly a Q.)

froeschle · 01-22-2013, 04:59 AM

Quote:

201 #Bdfn Thomas W. [Heidelberg]
202 #Bdfn Dimitris E. [Athen]
203 #Bdfn Thomas F. [München]
204 #Bdfn Michele S. [München]
205 #Bdfn sixtyeight
206 #-306 PPPPPP42 (I wouldn't even bother with Pentax if not for backwards compatibility so this is kinda a big deal)
207 #-307 GordonD (A Full Frame DSLR needs De-Crippled mount!)
208 #-308 Gray (Yes! The cripped K-mount severely weakens Pentax's claim to K-mount backward compatibility. Now imagine how compelling a FF dSLR with uncrippled KAF2 mount will be to owners of 35mm classic lenses)

Over 200 users already have signed this petition to de-cripple the Pentax K-mount (i.e. to restore the aperture ring coupler)!

g.a.p · 01-23-2013, 12:31 PM

Great idea!

Petor · 01-27-2013, 06:39 AM

would like to support this petition!

Saxplayer1004 · 01-27-2013, 07:35 AM

sign me up. hopefully it comes out on the next round of bodies...

froeschle · 01-28-2013, 02:28 AM

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209 #Bdfn Macshark
210 #-312 g.a.p
211 #-313 Petor
212 #-314 Saxplayer1004 (sign me up. hopefully it comes out on the next round of bodies... )

Looking forward to the response of Pentax/Ricoh at CP+.

01-19-2013, 04:49 PM	#307
GordonD New Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 4	A Full Frame DSLR needs De-Crippled mount! I have a collection of A series lenses and would like to use them with a de-crippled mount. My K-5 does a great job using the A lenses but it is missing that extra function. It will be much more important to me on a Pentax full frame DSLR so please make sure the mount is complete with aperture setting ring.

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01-09-2013, 03:43 PM	#301
Mr Manual Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: London Posts: 32	What a great idea. Might we one day see a FF de-crippled K-mount.

01-16-2013, 10:08 AM	#302
froeschle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 552 Original Poster	The next opportunity to share this with Pentax/Ricoh is at CP+ (31.1.-3.2.2013, Pacifico Yokohama Japan): CP+ CAMERA & PHOTO IMAGING SHOW 2013 https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/212069-pentaxforums-cp...ml#post2242598 Quote: 198 #-301 Mr Manual (What a great idea. Might we one day see a FF de-crippled K-mount.) 199 ??? 200 ???

01-16-2013, 04:29 PM	#303
mattt Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Niagara Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,907	Add my name.

01-17-2013, 04:00 AM	#304
macTak Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Photos: Gallery Posts: 759	I would love to see this as well.

01-17-2013, 07:48 AM	#305
froeschle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 552 Original Poster	Quote: 199 #-303 mattt (Add my name.) 200 #-304 macTak (I would love to see this as well.)

01-18-2013, 06:08 PM	#306
PPPPPP42 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Wisconsin Photos: Albums Posts: 951	De cripple, the used market is running out of A lenses and meanwhile the M and K stuff is less than half the price but not worth the fuss of using for me on the "modern" DSLR's. I wouldn't even bother with Pentax if not for backwards compatibility so this is kinda a big deal.

01-20-2013, 09:11 AM	#308
Gray Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Cape Town Photos: Gallery Posts: 536	Yes! The cripped K-mount severely weakens Pentax's claim to K-mount backward compatibility. Now imagine how compelling a FF dSLR with uncrippled KAF2 mount will be to owners of 35mm classic lenses will be.

01-20-2013, 11:00 AM	#309
JimJohnson Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Summer:Lake Superior - Michigan Winter:Texas Hill Country Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,774	I've mentioned this before, but the sucess or failure of this petition lies on how Pentax/Ricoh views its company. If that view is that Pentax's primary interest is in selling camera bodies, I think it has a good chance of success. On the other hand, if that view is primarily that Pentax/Richoh is a seller of lens, it is in their interest to allow only enough backwards compatibility to retain its body of Pentax enthusiasts. If we Pentax owners want to see this functionality in Pentax cameras, we need to assure Pentax that we will buy enough bodies to offset the potentially softer sales of its current production lenses. I've owned a K-r for just over one year and haven't come close to maximizing its capabilities, yet at the same time I've already started looking for ways to budget another Pentax camera.

01-20-2013, 03:04 PM	#310
drougge Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Malmö Photos: Gallery Posts: 787	Originally posted by JimJohnson I've mentioned this before, but the sucess or failure of this petition lies on how Pentax/Ricoh views its company. If that view is that Pentax's primary interest is in selling camera bodies, I think it has a good chance of success. On the other hand, if that view is primarily that Pentax/Richoh is a seller of lens, it is in their interest to allow only enough backwards compatibility to retain its body of Pentax enthusiasts. If we Pentax owners want to see this functionality in Pentax cameras, we need to assure Pentax that we will buy enough bodies to offset the potentially softer sales of its current production lenses. Either way they could be better served by having bodies with uncrippled mounts. if someone likes old lenses (like I do), they're currently better served buying a Nikon body, which doesn't cripple the old lenses in any way at all (assuming you buy an even moderatly expensive body, D7000 for example). Someone who buys a Nikon body isn't going to buy any Pentax lenses, or any other Pentax products either. (Possibly a Q.)

01-22-2013, 04:59 AM	#311
froeschle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 552 Original Poster	Quote: 201 #Bdfn Thomas W. [Heidelberg] 202 #Bdfn Dimitris E. [Athen] 203 #Bdfn Thomas F. [München] 204 #Bdfn Michele S. [München] 205 #Bdfn sixtyeight 206 #-306 PPPPPP42 (I wouldn't even bother with Pentax if not for backwards compatibility so this is kinda a big deal) 207 #-307 GordonD (A Full Frame DSLR needs De-Crippled mount!) 208 #-308 Gray (Yes! The cripped K-mount severely weakens Pentax's claim to K-mount backward compatibility. Now imagine how compelling a FF dSLR with uncrippled KAF2 mount will be to owners of 35mm classic lenses) Over 200 users already have signed this petition to de-cripple the Pentax K-mount (i.e. to restore the aperture ring coupler)!

01-23-2013, 12:31 PM	#312
g.a.p New Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Graz Posts: 2	Great idea!

01-27-2013, 06:39 AM	#313
Petor New Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Photos: Gallery Posts: 2	would like to support this petition!

01-27-2013, 07:35 AM	#314
Saxplayer1004 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 179	sign me up. hopefully it comes out on the next round of bodies...

01-28-2013, 02:28 AM	#315
froeschle Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 552 Original Poster	Quote: 209 #Bdfn Macshark 210 #-312 g.a.p 211 #-313 Petor 212 #-314 Saxplayer1004 (sign me up. hopefully it comes out on the next round of bodies... ) Looking forward to the response of Pentax/Ricoh at CP+.