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10-11-2012, 04:35 AM   #1
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K5IIs, is it worth the risk?

Is it a wise choice to choose the S model and have moire on your shots? I tried some PP with Photoshop and lightroom 4, and it is very hard if not impossible to correct without a lot of PP like cloning.
The small amount of sharpness over the stand model, can't you sharpen in K5II in PS or lightroom and get the same results?

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The K5IIs seems to be designed for those who need it, and know how to combat the disadvantages. If you mainly do landscape, it will be instrumental. However, if you do full body portraits, you would have to keep fabric design in mind.
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Would pentax/ricoh take the risk making a useless camera? I don't think so.
Have they ever issued a model that was a great disappointment? Can't name one.

So you can safely buy one.
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If I hadnt bought the K-5 earlier this year, I would be saving up the extra for a K-5 IIs no questions asked.
I mostly shoot nature and wildlife these days, so it'd do nicely...or at least, it seems to be a good piece of kit, judging from the large prints I've seen.

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QuoteOriginally posted by slip Quote
The small amount of sharpness over the stand model, can't you sharpen in K5II in PS or lightroom and get the same results?
Yes, pretty much.

A camera with a Bayer matrix sensor but without an AA filter only makes sense for very few people who know what they are doing and have full control over their scenes.

Note that it is still possible to create moiré even with a K-5, i.e., the latter's AA filter is not over-engineered.
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A camera with a Bayer matrix sensor but without an AA filter only makes sense for very few people who know what they are doing and have full control over their scenes.
Exactly! This is not intended for the casual photographer or as an everyday camera...
QuoteOriginally posted by hansenn Quote
So you can safely buy one.
If you're one of those very few. I know I'm not
10-11-2012, 07:14 AM   #7
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QuoteOriginally posted by victordeamorin Quote
Exactly! This is not intended for the casual photographer or as an everyday camera...
It will sell. And the clueless buyers who can't focus or post-process their shots will convince themselves that their jpegs are much sharper than before and will argue so on many a thread
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And the clueless buyers who can't focus or post-process their shots will convince themselves that their jpegs are much sharper than before and will argue so on many a thread
Is that what the D800e users are doing? The point has been made that without the two second delay to reduce mirror shake and a tripod you aren't going to see any difference has been thoroughly made and emphasized. I think you may be denigrating "clueless buyers" without justification. For myself, I'm planning to have both a II and a IIs, both to be used appropriately, with my K5 as the back up body. I'd assume a lot of folks ordering the IIs are keeping their K-5s for portrait and general work. I'd find it odd that there would be people buying this camera that are more clueless than me, but hey...maybe you're right.

I really don't think the K-5 IIs is going to be some kind of status camera that people buy to impress their rich uncle. I'm guessing the people who order it, will know how to use it.

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And why not by yourself remove the filter...?
A może by tak samemu wyjąć filtr?


James Miller removes optical low-pass filter from 5D Mark III for resolution increase / new footage

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It will sell. And the clueless buyers who can't focus or post-process their shots will convince themselves that their jpegs are much sharper than before and will argue so on many a thread
So are you getting the II or the IIs?
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Since the pixel size for the IMX071 sensor is 4.8umm (K5IIs) and the pixel size for the IMX094 is 6.25umm (Nikon D800e), We should expect less Moire on the K5IIs,
I have seen test on the Nikon D800e and it shows very little difference in Moire vs the regular D800
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Sorry for my previous post, the correct pixel size for the D800 is 4.89, I was confusing with the cannon 5D MKIII sensor, So anyway we should expect similar Moire behavior than the D800e
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QuoteOriginally posted by Corto-PA Quote
So are you getting the II or the IIs?
My K-7 still has well over 70,000 shutter clicks left before it hits the far end of the bathtub curve
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If I hadnt bought the K-5 earlier this year, I would be saving up the extra for a K-5 IIs no questions asked.
Me too. I waited for the big price reduction that came with the discontinuation of the K5. I'll likely do the same thing in a coupla years and get the K5IIs then.
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QuoteOriginally posted by yygomez Quote
Sorry for my previous post, the correct pixel size for the D800 is 4.89, I was confusing with the cannon 5D MKIII sensor, So anyway we should expect similar Moire behavior than the D800e
The K-5II Super will show a little more morie because it has to be enlarged more for equal viewing or printing. The more you enlarge the image the more apparent morie will be. I was looking at some A99 sample at 1:1 and spotted some morie and it has an AA filter.

I went on a walk to try to create morie with my K-5. Notice the morie in the center building and the color morie n the building on the right?
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