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11-12-2012, 10:35 PM   #1
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Next review: D800e vs 645D!

Which of the two will be the winner - the D800e or the 645D ?

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Put the D800e up against the K5iis since they are both AA filterless
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QuoteOriginally posted by bdparker Quote
Put the D800e up against the K5iis since they are both AA filterless
I wouldn't call that a fair comparison - plus, the K-5 IIs is on its way back to B&H But since you asked, here's a scaled 100% crop from the K-5 classic @31mm and D800 @50mm, both at F4 and ISO 800.
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11-13-2012, 03:40 AM   #4
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Hmm.. no comparison.

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Scaled crop? Doesn't the scaling completely invalidate the comparison? Wouldn't the only fair comparison be to print them both at the same dpi and at max size, using the same print settings?
But! I do want to see the 645D wipe the floor with the D800e, even though the two cameras have completely different planned uses.
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Unfortunately, according to tests, the 645D is only a little bit better than the D800e...
Well, we will see! I would like to see it crush the D800 as well
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QuoteOriginally posted by Na Horuk Quote
Scaled crop? Doesn't the scaling completely invalidate the comparison? Wouldn't the only fair comparison be to print them both at the same dpi and at max size, using the same print settings?
You could compare them at the same DPI, although you'd always have to keep in mind that you are cropping into the D800 much more than the K5. Also, if you were to crop the D800 photo down to 16mp then compare to the K5, you would get basically the same IQ. But you couldn't come to the conclusion that the two cameras had the same IQ because you'd have to account for the crop. It's much better, and completely valid, to compare photos at the same print/viewing size regardless of DPI or sensor size.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Adam Quote
here's a scaled 100% crop from the K-5 classic @31mm
How did you manage to make the K-5 look so noisy and soft at ISO 800? That's not the K-5 I know. .

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Clean up your room Adam!

Well the D800e should be better then K-5 IIs. Lots of fun in running around with 645D and D800e I think.
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Clean up your room Adam!
It's my girlfriend's stuff, which means it's off-limits for cleaning, unfortunately!

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QuoteOriginally posted by GabrielFFontes Quote
Unfortunately, according to tests, the 645D is only a little bit better than the D800e...
Well, we will see! I would like to see it crush the D800 as well
Considering you can buy two D800's for the price of one 645D I would hope it would wipe the floor with it but I doubt that will happen.
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How did you manage to make the K-5 look so noisy and soft at ISO 800? That's not the K-5 I know. .
I agree, that is very strange. Well, at least the color looks right and the white bucket is not completely blown to hell.
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The brief check I did over at Imaging Resource , 645D against d800e, the 645D was just a teeny tiny little bit sharper... but hardly $6,000 worth. But the 645D needs upgrading and the D800 is hot off the presses. Hopefully the 645D II comes out with a 60-70 Mp sensor that re-establishes it's place in the universe. At that point not only will the 645 D be large enough to handle any large print needs imaginable, (we're probably talking razor sharp prints at 10 feet and over). It should also be at a point where it will be hard for any FF to get close using current technology.
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I just did the studio tests, and my initial impressions are that at ISO 100, the IQ is practically the same. As you crank up the ISO, the 645D gains a visible advantage in terms of resolution, but the D800E continues to be ahead in terms of dynamic range. I will post links soon to some of the studio shots so that you guys can see for yourself

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QuoteOriginally posted by bdparker Quote
Put the D800e up against the K5iis since they are both AA filterless
I agree.
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