New Leica M8 Full-Frame announced at PMA !

Confused · 02-13-2008, 07:17 AM

Hi all

I just picked up the latest edition of Amateur Photographer Magazine (16th February) and read the following headline:

Quote:

Leica hints at full-frame camera. Read our exclusive news report from the PMA photo trade show in Las Vegas.

Apparently the forthcoming M8 is slated for release THIS year......so first it was C***n (1DSMk II/5D), then N***n (D3),
S**y (A900) coming later this year and now L***a (M8)......C'mon Pentax, how about it...where's YOUR FF DSLR ??????

Best regards
Richard

RiceHigh · 02-13-2008, 07:18 AM

NO TEXT!!!!!

Originally posted by Confused

Hi all

I just picked up the latest edition of Amateur Photographer Magazine (16th February) and read the following headline:

Apparently the forthcoming M8 is slated for release THIS year......so first it was C***n (1DSMk II/5D), then N***n (D3),
S**y (A900) coming later this year and now L***a (M8)......C'mon Pentax, how about it...where's YOUR FF DSLR ??????

Best regards
Richard

Kguru · 02-13-2008, 08:22 AM

Pentax is waiting for the ripe moment to release a $2K FF, to trump the whole opposition lot

jshurak · 02-13-2008, 08:38 AM

Full frame sensor or not. I want better auto focus, faster sync speed, and frames per second. Pentax already trumps the comp in everything IMO.

séamuis · 02-13-2008, 08:41 AM

I really don't understand this obsession people seem to have with FF sensors.

d.bradley · 02-13-2008, 08:45 AM

oh my god here we go again.

FF = amazing IQ with certain compromises
APS-C = amazing IQ different compromises

falconeye · 02-13-2008, 10:54 AM

True, but also...

For Leica it is an absolute necessity to provide the highest possible image quality in a 35mm body money can buy. So, they really got no other option but go FF.

But look at their price range, too

Gooshin · 02-13-2008, 11:02 AM

Tbear · 02-13-2008, 11:11 AM

I shudder to think what a Leica FF will cost.

Confused · 02-13-2008, 11:15 AM

Hi Seamus

Re your comment:

Quote:

I really don't understand this obsession people seem to have with FF sensors.

Please forgive the inept analogy, but imagine that you had become accustomed to driving around in a luxurious V8 engined vehicle and out-of-the-blue your local dealership turned up on your doorstep with an asthmatic 4-cylinder replacement ?
I'm certain there must be many long-suffering Pentax film enthusiasts out there who are patiently waiting for an opportunity to use their superb wide-angle lenses on a Pentax Full-Frame DSLR body WITHOUT having to worry about the unavoidable 1.5 x Focal Length Crop Factor which an APS-C sensor forces upon them.

Best regards
Richard

Gooshin · 02-13-2008, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Confused

Hi Seamus

Re your comment:

Please forgive the inept analogy, but imagine that you had become accustomed to driving around in a luxurious V8 engined vehicle and out-of-the-blue your local dealership turned up on your doorstep with an asthmatic 4-cylinder replacement ?
I'm certain there must be many long-suffering Pentax film enthusiasts out there who are patiently waiting for an opportunity to use their superb wide-angle lenses on a Pentax Full-Frame DSLR body WITHOUT having to worry about the unavoidable 1.5 x Focal Length Magnification Factor which an APS-C sensor forces upon them.

Best regards
Richard

when will people learn

its not magnification

if you look at something, and close one of your eyes, did the world magicaly get bigger? no, you just see less.

ankit · 02-13-2008, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by seamuis

I really don't understand this obsession people seem to have with FF sensors.

I really don't understand this hatred people seem to have for people with an obsession with FF sensors.

falconeye · 02-13-2008, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by ankit

I really don't understand this hatred people seem to have for people with an obsession with FF sensors.

Leica actually solved this:

Rumors tell that the FF sensor will also be offered as an upgrade for existing M8 users.

Now imagine that there would be an FF upgrade option to the K10D/K20D ... Would anybody still have any objections? Esp. as DA lenses would give the same images, just not use the full upgrade benefit.

I also believe Leica never released the equivalent to DA lenses but I am not sure.

Tbear · 02-13-2008, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by ankit

I really don't understand this hatred people seem to have for people with an obsession with FF sensors.

I've come across a few humorous posts (which could conceivably be insulting to some) with various derogatory descriptions of FF fanatics. If we are patient, we may be blessed with just such a post on this thread.

PentaxPoke · 02-13-2008, 12:05 PM

Originally posted by seamuis

I really don't understand this obsession people seem to have with FF sensors.

I have never understood the obsession some people have for Leica cameras. How can a camera with such limitations be worth $5k and more?

02-13-2008, 07:17 AM	#1
Confused Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London Posts: 1,067	New Leica M8 Full-Frame announced at PMA ! Hi all I just picked up the latest edition of Amateur Photographer Magazine (16th February) and read the following headline: Quote: Leica hints at full-frame camera. Read our exclusive news report from the PMA photo trade show in Las Vegas. Apparently the forthcoming M8 is slated for release THIS year......so first it was C*n (1DSMk II/5D), then Nn (D3), Sy (A900) coming later this year and now L**a (M8)......C'mon Pentax, how about it...where's YOUR FF DSLR ?????? Best regards Richard

02-13-2008, 07:18 AM	#2
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934	Yes, WHERE is PENTAX?? n/t NO TEXT!!!!! Originally posted by Confused Hi all I just picked up the latest edition of Amateur Photographer Magazine (16th February) and read the following headline: Apparently the forthcoming M8 is slated for release THIS year......so first it was C*n (1DSMk II/5D), then Nn (D3), Sy (A900) coming later this year and now L**a (M8)......C'mon Pentax, how about it...where's YOUR FF DSLR ?????? Best regards Richard

02-13-2008, 11:15 AM	#10
Confused Inactive Account Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: London Posts: 1,067 Original Poster	Hi Seamus Re your comment: Quote: I really don't understand this obsession people seem to have with FF sensors. Please forgive the inept analogy, but imagine that you had become accustomed to driving around in a luxurious V8 engined vehicle and out-of-the-blue your local dealership turned up on your doorstep with an asthmatic 4-cylinder replacement ? I'm certain there must be many long-suffering Pentax film enthusiasts out there who are patiently waiting for an opportunity to use their superb wide-angle lenses on a Pentax Full-Frame DSLR body WITHOUT having to worry about the unavoidable 1.5 x Focal Length Crop Factor which an APS-C sensor forces upon them. Best regards Richard Last edited by Confused; 02-14-2008 at 07:22 AM.

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séamuis Banned Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Savannah, U.S./Baguio City, P.H. Posts: 5,979	I really don't understand this obsession people seem to have with FF sensors.

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d.bradley Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 631	oh my god here we go again. FF = amazing IQ with certain compromises APS-C = amazing IQ different compromises

02-13-2008, 10:54 AM	#7
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	True, but also... For Leica it is an absolute necessity to provide the highest possible image quality in a 35mm body money can buy. So, they really got no other option but go FF. But look at their price range, too

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Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610

02-13-2008, 11:11 AM	#9
Tbear Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 269	I shudder to think what a Leica FF will cost.

02-13-2008, 11:20 AM	#11
Gooshin Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, the one in Canada. Posts: 5,610	Originally posted by Confused Hi Seamus Re your comment: Please forgive the inept analogy, but imagine that you had become accustomed to driving around in a luxurious V8 engined vehicle and out-of-the-blue your local dealership turned up on your doorstep with an asthmatic 4-cylinder replacement ? I'm certain there must be many long-suffering Pentax film enthusiasts out there who are patiently waiting for an opportunity to use their superb wide-angle lenses on a Pentax Full-Frame DSLR body WITHOUT having to worry about the unavoidable 1.5 x Focal Length Magnification Factor which an APS-C sensor forces upon them. Best regards Richard when will people learn its not magnification if you look at something, and close one of your eyes, did the world magicaly get bigger? no, you just see less.

02-13-2008, 11:23 AM	#12
ankit Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 140	Originally posted by seamuis I really don't understand this obsession people seem to have with FF sensors. I really don't understand this hatred people seem to have for people with an obsession with FF sensors.

02-13-2008, 11:38 AM	#13
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by ankit I really don't understand this hatred people seem to have for people with an obsession with FF sensors. Leica actually solved this: Rumors tell that the FF sensor will also be offered as an upgrade for existing M8 users. Now imagine that there would be an FF upgrade option to the K10D/K20D ... Would anybody still have any objections? Esp. as DA lenses would give the same images, just not use the full upgrade benefit. I also believe Leica never released the equivalent to DA lenses but I am not sure.

02-13-2008, 11:39 AM	#14
Tbear Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 269	Originally posted by ankit I really don't understand this hatred people seem to have for people with an obsession with FF sensors. I've come across a few humorous posts (which could conceivably be insulting to some) with various derogatory descriptions of FF fanatics. If we are patient, we may be blessed with just such a post on this thread.

02-13-2008, 12:05 PM	#15
PentaxPoke Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,411	Originally posted by seamuis I really don't understand this obsession people seem to have with FF sensors. I have never understood the obsession some people have for Leica cameras. How can a camera with such limitations be worth $5k and more?