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John Kovarik · 02-27-2008, 12:12 PM

Someone on the 'other' forum grumbles the the DNG setting will not work in ADOBE.

Can anyone, confirm, contradict, or comment?

Just wonderin'.........

kingkongva · 02-27-2008, 12:25 PM

got k10d. dng files work in both cs2, cs3

ftpaddict · 02-27-2008, 12:33 PM

Very smart. Adobe not supporting their own format? Chuckles are in order.

**Canada_Rockies** · 02-27-2008, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by John Kovarik

Someone on the 'other' forum grumbles the the DNG setting will not work in ADOBE.

Can anyone, confirm, contradict, or comment?

Just wonderin'.........

Lightroom and Elements 6 accept my files, either DNG or PEF without any indigestion.

Snowcat · 02-27-2008, 01:40 PM

DNG is Digital negative format, developed by Adobe. There is absolutely no chance it will not be supported by their own products.

jbcampbell · 02-27-2008, 01:50 PM

My K20D just came today, I stepped outside to shoot a few test shots. I shot RAW-DNG in Adobe color space & I was able to open them in PS CS3 & lightroom.

benjikan · 02-27-2008, 01:54 PM

Originally posted by John Kovarik

Someone on the 'other' forum grumbles the the DNG setting will not work in ADOBE.

Can anyone, confirm, contradict, or comment?

Just wonderin'.........

All the RAW DNG's I shot on the K20D were opened in PS CS3. The PEF's did not.

That was around the 25th of January.

Ben

davemdsn · 02-27-2008, 02:42 PM

Not only do my K20 DNGs open in Photoshop CS3, Bridge CS3 and Lightroom, they also open in Aperture 2.

codiac2600 · 02-27-2008, 03:14 PM

Count me in the crowd where it works.

The problem is ACR destroys the sharpness and color quality like it did originally for the K10D... stupid ACR!

John Kovarik · 02-27-2008, 03:19 PM

Well, that's a relief........thanks........

John Kovarik · 02-27-2008, 03:23 PM

This is the post..........if any are interested.......

PEF file for K20D is not available with adobe softwares. It is quite normal, it is the case for all the other brands. It takes a while for that.

But, there is a big but, DNG files ofthe K20D, which are announced to be compatible with Adobe sofware do not work. It is impossible to ajust colors correctly.

The consequence. I can put my 2 new K20D in the cupboard waiting for software updates and go back to work with my K1ODs for a while.

I am really disappointed.

a a i b · 02-27-2008, 03:40 PM

Yep, DNG files open in Aperture 2. Boy are they big.

I'm wondering about the color tweaking comment. Just a preliminary impression, but I do think tweaking the white balance with DNG is much harder than with the PEF. Anyone else see this?

Given how long it took Apple to support Nikon's D300, I think it could be awhile before PEF support comes to Aperture.

distudio · 02-27-2008, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by John Kovarik

This is the post..........if any are interested.......

PEF file for K20D is not available with adobe softwares. It is quite normal, it is the case for all the other brands. It takes a while for that.

But, there is a big but, DNG files ofthe K20D, which are announced to be compatible with Adobe sofware do not work. It is impossible to ajust colors correctly.

The consequence. I can put my 2 new K20D in the cupboard waiting for software updates and go back to work with my K1ODs for a while.

I am really disappointed.

Shoot PEF and convert to DNG in PPL, the DNG files though huge will open without colour errors in ACR (they can of course be compressed using the Adobe DNG convertor). It's simply the price of being an early adopter.

jbcampbell · 02-27-2008, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by John Kovarik

This is the post..........if any are interested.......

PEF file for K20D is not available with adobe softwares. It is quite normal, it is the case for all the other brands. It takes a while for that.

But, there is a big but, DNG files ofthe K20D, which are announced to be compatible with Adobe sofware do not work. It is impossible to ajust colors correctly.

The consequence. I can put my 2 new K20D in the cupboard waiting for software updates and go back to work with my K1ODs for a while.

I am really disappointed.

That's not what I am seeing, I was able to shoot, open & adjust images in DNG format in Lightroom as usual.

amateur6 · 02-27-2008, 08:52 PM

I had no problems with DNG at low ISO opening into CS3 (ACR 4.something).

However...

Shooting test shots indoors in normal household lighting (pushing the limits) using a DA* 16-50mm at f4 (MTF program line), ISO 800 was bad ("worse" than k10d at 1600) and everything higher got worse -- this using Photoshop CS2 and ACR 3.7 (home machine this time).

Comparison swatches attached. Top pair's white balance is "As shot" and all else is flat, 0, no adjustments -- ONLY adjustment to bottom pair is adjusting white balance with the eyedropper.

No in-camera p.p. on either one (NR off, etc). You can see some JPEG artifacts around type, though -- that's all from the composite. Sorry, didn't want to upload a mega-file.

If I get a chance I'll try PEF and see if that makes a difference...

02-27-2008, 12:12 PM	#1
John Kovarik Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: West Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 338	K20d Dng Raw Someone on the 'other' forum grumbles the the DNG setting will not work in ADOBE. Can anyone, confirm, contradict, or comment? Just wonderin'.........

02-27-2008, 08:52 PM	#15
amateur6 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Rhode Island Photos: Gallery Posts: 177	I had no problems with DNG at low ISO opening into CS3 (ACR 4.something). However... Shooting test shots indoors in normal household lighting (pushing the limits) using a DA* 16-50mm at f4 (MTF program line), ISO 800 was bad ("worse" than k10d at 1600) and everything higher got worse -- this using Photoshop CS2 and ACR 3.7 (home machine this time). Comparison swatches attached. Top pair's white balance is "As shot" and all else is flat, 0, no adjustments -- ONLY adjustment to bottom pair is adjusting white balance with the eyedropper. No in-camera p.p. on either one (NR off, etc). You can see some JPEG artifacts around type, though -- that's all from the composite. Sorry, didn't want to upload a mega-file. If I get a chance I'll try PEF and see if that makes a difference... Attached Images

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Canada_Rockies Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sparwood, BC, Canada Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 12,385	Originally posted by John Kovarik Someone on the 'other' forum grumbles the the DNG setting will not work in ADOBE. Can anyone, confirm, contradict, or comment? Just wonderin'......... Lightroom and Elements 6 accept my files, either DNG or PEF without any indigestion.

02-27-2008, 01:40 PM	#5
Snowcat Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 239	DNG is Digital negative format, developed by Adobe. There is absolutely no chance it will not be supported by their own products.

02-27-2008, 01:50 PM	#6
jbcampbell Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lynchburg, VA Posts: 215	My K20D just came today, I stepped outside to shoot a few test shots. I shot RAW-DNG in Adobe color space & I was able to open them in PS CS3 & lightroom.

02-27-2008, 01:54 PM	#7
benjikan Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Paris, France Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,308	Originally posted by John Kovarik Someone on the 'other' forum grumbles the the DNG setting will not work in ADOBE. Can anyone, confirm, contradict, or comment? Just wonderin'......... All the RAW DNG's I shot on the K20D were opened in PS CS3. The PEF's did not. That was around the 25th of January. Ben

02-27-2008, 02:42 PM	#8
davemdsn Inactive Account Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Boise, Idaho Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,413	Not only do my K20 DNGs open in Photoshop CS3, Bridge CS3 and Lightroom, they also open in Aperture 2.

02-27-2008, 03:14 PM	#9
codiac2600 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Rockford, Illinois Posts: 2,027	Count me in the crowd where it works. The problem is ACR destroys the sharpness and color quality like it did originally for the K10D... stupid ACR!

02-27-2008, 03:19 PM	#10
John Kovarik Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: West Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 338 Original Poster	Well, that's a relief........thanks........

02-27-2008, 03:23 PM	#11
John Kovarik Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: West Virginia Photos: Gallery Posts: 338 Original Poster	This is the post..........if any are interested....... PEF file for K20D is not available with adobe softwares. It is quite normal, it is the case for all the other brands. It takes a while for that. But, there is a big but, DNG files ofthe K20D, which are announced to be compatible with Adobe sofware do not work. It is impossible to ajust colors correctly. The consequence. I can put my 2 new K20D in the cupboard waiting for software updates and go back to work with my K1ODs for a while. I am really disappointed.

02-27-2008, 03:40 PM	#12
a a i b Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Brooklyn Photos: Gallery Posts: 315	Yep, DNG files open in Aperture 2. Boy are they big. I'm wondering about the color tweaking comment. Just a preliminary impression, but I do think tweaking the white balance with DNG is much harder than with the PEF. Anyone else see this? Given how long it took Apple to support Nikon's D300, I think it could be awhile before PEF support comes to Aperture.

02-27-2008, 03:54 PM	#13
distudio Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Sydney Photos: Albums Posts: 450	Originally posted by John Kovarik This is the post..........if any are interested....... PEF file for K20D is not available with adobe softwares. It is quite normal, it is the case for all the other brands. It takes a while for that. But, there is a big but, DNG files ofthe K20D, which are announced to be compatible with Adobe sofware do not work. It is impossible to ajust colors correctly. The consequence. I can put my 2 new K20D in the cupboard waiting for software updates and go back to work with my K1ODs for a while. I am really disappointed. Shoot PEF and convert to DNG in PPL, the DNG files though huge will open without colour errors in ACR (they can of course be compressed using the Adobe DNG convertor). It's simply the price of being an early adopter.

02-27-2008, 08:11 PM	#14
jbcampbell Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Lynchburg, VA Posts: 215	Originally posted by John Kovarik This is the post..........if any are interested....... PEF file for K20D is not available with adobe softwares. It is quite normal, it is the case for all the other brands. It takes a while for that. But, there is a big but, DNG files ofthe K20D, which are announced to be compatible with Adobe sofware do not work. It is impossible to ajust colors correctly. The consequence. I can put my 2 new K20D in the cupboard waiting for software updates and go back to work with my K1ODs for a while. I am really disappointed. That's not what I am seeing, I was able to shoot, open & adjust images in DNG format in Lightroom as usual.

K20d Dng Raw

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