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jsherman999 · 02-29-2008, 04:31 PM

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Here are just a few K20D shots (first 8 pics in this album linked below.)

The AWB & color of this K20D are incredible. Straight outta the camera.

The first 8 are K20D, the rest K100D. Make sure you use the zoom icon & let it render to see all the details.

Picasa Web Albums - Jay - 0227_16-50mm

All the ones below are K20D with DA* 16-50 and DA* 50-135, all handheld, no PP:

Picasa Web Albums - Jay - 0301_k20d_church

And the following is an example of the 21fps feature. I think for best effect, hit the slideshow icon and move through the images fast to see movement.

Picasa Web Albums - Jay - K20d_21fps

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Last edited by jsherman999; 03-01-2008 at 04:09 PM.

Buddha Jones · 02-29-2008, 04:52 PM

WOW!! Where are the flaws in the 16-50mm? The vignetting and the barrel distortion? Where did all this perfection come from? Dont tell me it is from the camera?

jsherman999 · 02-29-2008, 06:54 PM

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There's some distortion on the 16mm shot of that ivy-covered 4x4 support beam, but it's normal fish-eye type distortion that comes from any lens with that aspect ratio.

I had to return my 1st copy of the 16-50, however. It was capable of good shots, but you really had to work to get them - the first focus attempt was always off, you had to go out to infinity and back to make the shot sharp. My second copy is pretty much perfect.

At this point I don't know how much credit to give the camera or the lens for the clarity of those images. It sure is a good combo though!

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twinda1 · 02-29-2008, 11:43 PM

Straight of the camera means you shot JPEG right? If so it looks like they improved the in-camera engine quite a bit. No more stupid reviews from stupid reviewers looking at JPEG output!

jsherman999 · 02-29-2008, 11:55 PM

Originally posted by twinda1

Straight of the camera means you shot JPEG right? If so it looks like they improved the in-camera engine quite a bit. No more stupid reviews from stupid reviewers looking at JPEG output!

Yes, that's just jpeg. I've shot a bunch of RAW also, but haven't had time to do any PP.

Haven't had as much time as I'd like to take photos, but here's what I've found so far re K20 vs the K100D:

* faster AF in both regular and low light
* cleaner ISO 1600, especially colors
* color, color, color, rich color
* white balance is vastly improved
* resolution with my manual primes, 77ltd, and DA* lenses all show incredible resolution
* less actual noise reduction in camera, but less needed. Images look more natural as a result. Pixel-peeping goes deeper at 14.6MP than 6MP, so you can see the noise drilling down, but the unzoomed image is very clean.

More later when I don't have deadlines and on-call schedules...

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Lensvision · 03-01-2008, 06:48 AM

Looking very good, like you said the colors are great.

hotrod · 03-01-2008, 10:37 AM

Looks like this is the camera i`m looking for. I´m not to much of a RAW fan so jpeg is all i shoot. Don´t have time or the patience to PP. Looks like i´ll be considering pentax k20d and sell my little canon XTI.

falconeye · 03-01-2008, 10:41 AM

Ok, let's make this THE K20D picture thread while curiosity stays high...

Here is my contribution:

[IMGWIDELEFT]https://www.pentaxforums.com/gallery/images/5395/1_IMGP0509-v03.jpg[/IMGWIDELEFT]

which is a 100% crop from the attached image below. This is from the ***JPEG captured alongside RAW in RAW+ mode with all settings to default (except for 200% EDR on).

There is no noise (shot at ISO 200), all "noise" coming from textures of the subject. The image was distorted multiple times, still the image is still quite usable at a 100% crop level (no sharping applied).

jsherman999 · 03-01-2008, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by hotrod

Looks like this is the camera i`m looking for. I´m not to much of a RAW fan so jpeg is all i shoot. Don´t have time or the patience to PP. Looks like i´ll be considering pentax k20d and sell my little canon XTI.

That's actually a good way to put it - much less PP will be needed on straight jpegs, I see that in spades. I think a talented PP expert will make blow-you-away stuff from these raw images, though, I'm just not that talented with PP yet.

I'm planning to take some interior shots of a nice church nearby today, so we should have some more colors/detail to peep at

Maybe I'll post a few raw for download from picasaweb so some RAW talent can take a closer look.

This camera just plain rocks.

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falconeye · 03-01-2008, 11:12 AM

Another one,

includes RAW for the curious (.PEF, use Pentax PhotoLaboratory3 to view). The attached images show a thumbnail and a 100% crop. ISO200, DA40mm f/2.8.

Enjoy.

RAW: http://www.livis.de/download/pub/IMGP0508.PEF

Note: If your browser downloads this file to IMGP0508.TIFF, rename back to IMGP0508.PEF and complain at Browser vendor.

Put by mistake (*istDS, no K20D! -- see the difference

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Fl_Gulfer · 03-01-2008, 12:17 PM

The girls look HOT. but they are way out of focus.. The buildings are great. what is PP? is that the same as PS=Photoshop

ftpaddict · 03-01-2008, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by Fl_Gulfer

The girls look HOT. but they are way out of focus.. The buildings are great. what is PP? is that the same as PS=Photoshop

PP means post-processing, as far as I know.

So yes, it could mean the same as Photoshop, if that is your preferred PP application.

falconeye · 03-01-2008, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by Fl_Gulfer

The girls [...] are way out of focus.

Thank You for reminding me of it

I know they are and I've put them only to entertain the thread audience a little bit. I took them (during Games Convention in Leipzig) with my DS and its AF failed. I didn't want to access them again as soon as I found out ... My first impression with my K20D's AF is that it would have delivered in the same situation

jsherman999 · 03-01-2008, 02:21 PM

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Link below is all K20D with DA* 16-50 & 50-135, handheld, no PP:

Picasa Web Albums - Jay - 0301_k20d_church

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jsherman999 · 03-01-2008, 04:11 PM

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21fps example. Use 'slideshow' icon for best effect:

Picasa Web Albums - Jay - K20d_21fps

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02-29-2008, 04:31 PM	#1
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237	K20D pics . Here are just a few K20D shots (first 8 pics in this album linked below.) The AWB & color of this K20D are incredible. Straight outta the camera. The first 8 are K20D, the rest K100D. Make sure you use the zoom icon & let it render to see all the details. Picasa Web Albums - Jay - 0227_16-50mm All the ones below are K20D with DA* 16-50 and DA* 50-135, all handheld, no PP: Picasa Web Albums - Jay - 0301_k20d_church And the following is an example of the 21fps feature. I think for best effect, hit the slideshow icon and move through the images fast to see movement. Picasa Web Albums - Jay - K20d_21fps . Last edited by jsherman999; 03-01-2008 at 04:09 PM.

03-01-2008, 10:41 AM	#8
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	THE K20D pics thread Ok, let's make this THE K20D picture thread while curiosity stays high... Here is my contribution: [IMGWIDELEFT]https://www.pentaxforums.com/gallery/images/5395/1_IMGP0509-v03.jpg[/IMGWIDELEFT] which is a 100% crop from the attached image below. This is from the **JPEG captured alongside RAW in RAW+ mode with all settings to default (except for 200% EDR on). There is no noise (shot at ISO 200), all "noise" coming from textures of the subject. The image was distorted multiple times, still the image is still quite usable at a 100% crop level (no sharping applied). Last edited by falconeye; 03-17-2008 at 07:06 PM.*

03-01-2008, 11:12 AM	#10
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	THE K20D pics thread Another one, includes RAW for the curious (.PEF, use Pentax PhotoLaboratory3 to view). The attached images show a thumbnail and a 100% crop. ISO200, DA40mm f/2.8. Enjoy. RAW: http://www.livis.de/download/pub/IMGP0508.PEF Note: If your browser downloads this file to IMGP0508.TIFF, rename back to IMGP0508.PEF and complain at Browser vendor. Put by mistake (istDS, no K20D! -- see the difference : Last edited by falconeye; 06-15-2011 at 05:27 AM.*

03-01-2008, 02:12 PM	#13
falconeye Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Munich, Alps, Germany Photos: Gallery Posts: 6,871	Originally posted by Fl_Gulfer The girls [...] are way out of focus. Thank You for reminding me of it I know they are and I've put them only to entertain the thread audience a little bit. I took them (during Games Convention in Leipzig) with my DS and its AF failed. I didn't want to access them again as soon as I found out ... My first impression with my K20D's AF is that it would have delivered in the same situation Last edited by falconeye; 03-01-2008 at 02:52 PM.

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Buddha Jones Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,587	WOW!! Where are the flaws in the 16-50mm? The vignetting and the barrel distortion? Where did all this perfection come from? Dont tell me it is from the camera?

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jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237 Original Poster	. There's some distortion on the 16mm shot of that ivy-covered 4x4 support beam, but it's normal fish-eye type distortion that comes from any lens with that aspect ratio. I had to return my 1st copy of the 16-50, however. It was capable of good shots, but you really had to work to get them - the first focus attempt was always off, you had to go out to infinity and back to make the shot sharp. My second copy is pretty much perfect. At this point I don't know how much credit to give the camera or the lens for the clarity of those images. It sure is a good combo though! .

02-29-2008, 11:43 PM	#4
twinda1 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 142	Straight of the camera means you shot JPEG right? If so it looks like they improved the in-camera engine quite a bit. No more stupid reviews from stupid reviewers looking at JPEG output!

02-29-2008, 11:55 PM	#5
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237 Original Poster	Originally posted by twinda1 Straight of the camera means you shot JPEG right? If so it looks like they improved the in-camera engine quite a bit. No more stupid reviews from stupid reviewers looking at JPEG output! Yes, that's just jpeg. I've shot a bunch of RAW also, but haven't had time to do any PP. Haven't had as much time as I'd like to take photos, but here's what I've found so far re K20 vs the K100D: * faster AF in both regular and low light * cleaner ISO 1600, especially colors * color, color, color, rich color * white balance is vastly improved * resolution with my manual primes, 77ltd, and DA* lenses all show incredible resolution * less actual noise reduction in camera, but less needed. Images look more natural as a result. Pixel-peeping goes deeper at 14.6MP than 6MP, so you can see the noise drilling down, but the unzoomed image is very clean. More later when I don't have deadlines and on-call schedules... .

03-01-2008, 06:48 AM	#6
Lensvision Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Netherlands Photos: Gallery Posts: 47	Looking very good, like you said the colors are great.

03-01-2008, 10:37 AM	#7
hotrod New Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mar del Plata, Argentina Posts: 24	Looks like this is the camera i`m looking for. I´m not to much of a RAW fan so jpeg is all i shoot. Don´t have time or the patience to PP. Looks like i´ll be considering pentax k20d and sell my little canon XTI.

03-01-2008, 11:00 AM	#9
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237 Original Poster	Originally posted by hotrod Looks like this is the camera i`m looking for. I´m not to much of a RAW fan so jpeg is all i shoot. Don´t have time or the patience to PP. Looks like i´ll be considering pentax k20d and sell my little canon XTI. That's actually a good way to put it - much less PP will be needed on straight jpegs, I see that in spades. I think a talented PP expert will make blow-you-away stuff from these raw images, though, I'm just not that talented with PP yet. I'm planning to take some interior shots of a nice church nearby today, so we should have some more colors/detail to peep at Maybe I'll post a few raw for download from picasaweb so some RAW talent can take a closer look. This camera just plain rocks. .

03-01-2008, 12:17 PM	#11
Fl_Gulfer Veteran Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida Gulfer Photos: Albums Posts: 3,054	The girls look HOT. but they are way out of focus.. The buildings are great. what is PP? is that the same as PS=Photoshop

03-01-2008, 01:16 PM	#12
ftpaddict Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yurp Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,666	Originally posted by Fl_Gulfer The girls look HOT. but they are way out of focus.. The buildings are great. what is PP? is that the same as PS=Photoshop PP means post-processing, as far as I know. So yes, it could mean the same as Photoshop, if that is your preferred PP application.

03-01-2008, 02:21 PM	#14
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237 Original Poster	. Link below is all K20D with DA* 16-50 & 50-135, handheld, no PP: Picasa Web Albums - Jay - 0301_k20d_church .

03-01-2008, 04:11 PM	#15
jsherman999 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Photos: Gallery Posts: 8,237 Original Poster	. 21fps example. Use 'slideshow' icon for best effect: Picasa Web Albums - Jay - K20d_21fps .

K20D pics

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