Originally posted by Gooshin so little dinky dials make or break a camera now?
I'm with Confused and others here. The two e-dials on the K10D make a major difference. My little *ist DS takes lovely photos but I find myself trying to avoid using it now, because I find it so annoying to have to go to special trouble to adjust the aperture in M mode.
But let me try to provide a different perspective here, that gives each side of this discussion its due.
In the past it was possible to distinguish the capture medium (film) from the body as a control mechanism. A good photographer used to be able to put a good lens on a cheap camera and take great photos, using high-quality film. These days the control mechanism has the capture medium (the sensor) built into it. This in itself is unfortunate, as it makes it harder to evaluate the elements of the photographic process separately, the way we used to be able to.
But when we compare the K200D and the K10D, as I understand it, the capture medium is the same, so the difference really does boil down to the ergonomics of the two bodies. In well over a year now of listening to people talk about the K10D, I can only remember one time when a user who had actually had a K10D in his (or her) hands for more than a day felt like going back to the K100D, and if I recall correctly, that was because that user felt that the K10D was just a little too big. Everybody else whose posts I've read or to whom I've spoken seems to agree that the K10D's design is brilliant. Even "objective" reviewers (I'm thinking of Sean Reid) have noted that the K10D has a lot of brilliant usability touches, that make it a pleasure to work with the camera.
I think the two e-dials are among the most important of these usability improvements. FOR ME, the two e-dials (as Gimbal said) alone make the K10D "superior in usage." Confused and many others will agree. If money were no issue, I think
everybody would agree.
Now, I hasten to add, that money is an issue, if we compare the cost of the original K100D (or K100D Super) to the cost of the original K10D, or if we compare the cost of the K200D to the K20D. The extra e-dial does seem to add to the cost of the camera, and I'm not sure that the improvement offered by two e-dials matters to all users. I think
the K10D's superior ergonomics really matter most to photographers who take a lot of photographs and who need to be thinking constantly about changes in the light that require changes to the settings--like wedding and event photographers, and sports photographers. For these photographers, a small increase in operating efficiency is worth paying hundreds of dollars for. I'd add further that
the two e-dials in particular will matter much more to photographers who do the bulk of their shooting in M mode (or TAv) than to those who use Tv or Av heavily. If you use P or one of the two main priority modes (Tv or Av) most of the time, and/or if you're not usually in a big hurry to take the next shot, then the two e-dials may not be a big enough deal to justify the extra expense.
Ah, but if you're comparing the K200D at, say, $800, to a K10D that costs the same or less, then I honestly can't think of any reason you'd want to buy a K200D. Eventually the K10Ds will be sold out and you will be choosing between the K200D and the K20D that costs a lot more. But right now, it seems a no-brainer.
So, no, the dials don't make or break the camera, if you are thinking only of the camera's one-shot performance. I've taken some gosh-awful shots with my K10D, and I have taken some really sweet photos with my *ist DS (and with the K100D I owned previously). But if you look beyond the question of whether camera A, in ideal conditions, can take as good a photo as camera B, in the same ideal conditions, and start asking yourself questions about performance throughout the shoot, then the two e-dials might indeed "make" a big difference. A single bullet from a revolver can kill a person as dead as a single bullet from a machine gun. But if you're trying to fight off a dozen attackers, you'd probably prefer to have a machine gun.
Will