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01-12-2007, 06:16 PM   #16
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They can rule out the deal pixel by software remapping at their workshop. Actually, the factory should have done this but the deal pixel escaped.

If it is within the retun period, I suggest you to ask for a brand new replacement.

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They can rule out the deal pixel by software remapping at their workshop. Actually, the factory should have done this but the deal pixel escaped.

If it is within the retun period, I suggest you to ask for a brand new replacement.
I just received it a few days ago. I've already got a return authorization # from Beach Camera - so I'll send it back as soon as this massive ice storm blows through. I'm in Oklahoma, and we're getting pounded with 3 straight days of freezing rain.
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You got me by about 15 extra years; but I've done color negatives and color printing. And significant retouching with everything from a pencil to an airbrush. And a half dozen alternative processes--maybe it all evens-out.

I've no doubt that a few defective cameras or maybe damaged cameras found ways into consumer hands-it's inevitable. And this case certainly seems significant enough for a warrantee replacement.

What it's NOT is the go buzzer for a frenzy of Pentax bashing. I say send the camera back--hey, I cannot find anything like that star on my K100D, so what the heck---it's busted, get it fixed. And the OP has my sympathy-it stinks getting a bad anything right from the box. But stuff happens.

And this ain't the day where a sharp pencil could spot-it-out; today that would require a full blown computer and a photo editor package.

You know what would be impressive? Some information on how well or poorly this problem gets 'fixed'; by the dealer, the manufacturer, a service center, whatever. How long they take, how much it costs (should be just postage).

But hey. it's more fun to throw a hissy fit in a public forum and get every busybody stirred up into full panic mode, flying allegations and recriminations and whatever. It's always good to start another conspiracy theory-we all know how bad big-business wants to rip the buying public.

Damn entertaining; but about as useful as rerun-TV.
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I think you've misunderstood me here. I'm in no way trying to bash Pentax or cause a stir or anything like that.

I understand with sensitive electronics like sensors with 6 million points on them are subject to a single flaw every once in a while. I'm not upset about it - just something to be taken care of. I'm returning my K100D for another K100D because I think it's an awesome camera that takes awesome photos.

To anybody reading this who's trying to decide whether its a good camera or not - it is - a VERY good camera.

Sorry if I put out the wrong message with this thread - more than anything I wanted to show the photos and make sure it was what I thought it was.

It'll get taken care of - so far Beach Camera has been very responsive and helpful. Last night I sent them an email stating the problem w/my order number, and this morning I had an email response apologizing for the problem and a return auth. # to get another camera. I'll keep this post updated on how the process goes.

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Did anyone in this thread ever shoot film, process it yourself and print it? It's a serious question.
Just a few miles of film and a county or so of paper; color & mono.
Do you have a specific question?
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As I understand it, it's impossible to fabricate a sensor that big and not have defective pixels. A minor defect like yours is normally caught and masked out using software at the factory. The software just replaces the info in that pixel with info from a neighbor. Waa. You lost 1 out of 6 million. Since these can occur during the life of the sensor, some cameras have the ability to do the map in a menu.

Since you have a new camera, they will replace it. Hopefully, a service center will get it and fire up a maintence program to mask it out. Then maybe it gets sold as a refurb.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jfdavis58 Quote
Did anyone in this thread ever shoot film, process it yourself and print it? It's a serious question.
It doesn't take a heap of brains to do the mechanics of darkroom work. Developing and printing a picture could have got me an achievement star in Cub Scouts 50 years ago. My dad showed me how to develop film from my Brownie when I was 9 years old. After I got out of college and bought my first 35mm camera, I did the whole B&W thread as a hobby. Later, when they made it easier, I printed from slides and color negatives. All as a hobby, and to decorate my office and home with prints.

I haven't done it in over 20 years though.
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I have the same problem but it's purple on mine. I think I'm going to return it today as it's the last day I have to do so....I just hope the next camera isn't any worse.

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Use Adobe Camera Raw. It automagically removes hot pixels. And don't be disappointed if/when your new K100D develops one again. It will happen.

One thing that I wish all digital cameras had was a routine to remap the dead/hot pixels whenever needed. My Koday P850 did it, as do some of the current dSLRs. I think it's very useful and would save the camera companies much grief with returned cameras.
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Well guess what? I exchanged the camera and now instead of having 1 tiny purple pixel I now have 3! A red one, a green one and a purple one Worst part about it is that I'm not able to exchange it for another because it's my last day of return, now I have to deal with Pentax and lord knows how long that's going to take.

I'm gonna call the camera shop and beg for my old camera back, but I can't do that 'till Monday.
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Well guess what? I exchanged the camera and now instead of having 1 tiny purple pixel I now have 3! A red one, a green one and a purple one Worst part about it is that I'm not able to exchange it for another because it's my last day of return, now I have to deal with Pentax and lord knows how long that's going to take.

I'm gonna call the camera shop and beg for my old camera back, but I can't do that 'till Monday.
Man, that sucks. I'm kind of worried about this, too - but I'm thinking it's a rare case.

Anyway, I found a purple pixel in all my photos as well - its just not quite as noticeable as the bright red one.

In a worse case scenario, it's not too much work to go in and clone out the pixel - just one more step in the work-flow. Let us know how it goes. I'm guessing that any reputable dealer would renew the return period on the newly exchanged item - in any case that I've ever exchanged anything this has been the way it goes.
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QuoteOriginally posted by jfdavis58 Quote
Did anyone in this thread ever shoot film, process it yourself and print it? It's a serious question.
So... What does it have to do with dead pixels?
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QuoteOriginally posted by rfortson Quote
Use Adobe Camera Raw. It automagically removes hot pixels. And don't be disappointed if/when your new K100D develops one again. It will happen.
Bibble also supports this feature ;-)
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QuoteOriginally posted by Brian Wahl Quote
Man, that sucks. I'm kind of worried about this, too - but I'm thinking it's a rare case.

Anyway, I found a purple pixel in all my photos as well - its just not quite as noticeable as the bright red one.

In a worse case scenario, it's not too much work to go in and clone out the pixel - just one more step in the work-flow. Let us know how it goes. I'm guessing that any reputable dealer would renew the return period on the newly exchanged item - in any case that I've ever exchanged anything this has been the way it goes.
Hey Brian, fortunately I was able to resolve everything on Sunday. I checked their website for store hours and in spite the fact that it said they were closed on Sundays I tried calling them anyway, they were open! I spoke with the gentlemen who had exchanged my camera the night before, I told him that the new camera was worse and that I wanted my old camera back. He said "no problem, you're lucky you called today because we were going to send the camera back to Pentax tomorrow morning."

Funny enough, that tiny little pixel doesn't even bother me now. It's not in a terribly bad location, it's not noticeable in most pictures, if needed it doesn't take much time to clone it out in Photoshop, or if I shoot RAW Bibble does the work for me Needless to say, I am a happy camper.
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Little update here. I got an email from Beach that they've shipped a new camera. I sent mine off to them via FedEx Ground exactly a week ago. Not too bad of a turn-around. On top of that, according to FedEx tracking, my camera should be delivered on the 27th, which is a Saturday.

So far so good. . .
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