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08-26-2013, 05:21 AM   #1
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Have K20d, looking to upgrade. K5 or K-50?

Hi All, I have a k20 and my backup is my old k200. I'm going to be upgrading and one of main reasons I'd like to upgrade is for the ISO noise reduction.

Right now, my k20 seems to have a lot of noise. But overall it's a great camera, and I'd like to make this my backup.

I was considering the k-5 and then I saw the k-50.

Which is a better camera for noise reduction?

The one I want is (645D) $8000. Will be quite some time before I see that....ha.

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QuoteOriginally posted by mishmatta Quote
Hi All, I have a k20 and my backup is my old k200. I'm going to be upgrading and one of main reasons I'd like to upgrade is for the ISO noise reduction.

Right now, my k20 seems to have a lot of noise. But overall it's a great camera, and I'd like to make this my backup.

I was considering the k-5 and then I saw the k-50.

Which is a better camera for noise reduction?

The one I want is (645D) $8000. Will be quite some time before I see that....ha.
Have a look at the K30, now that the 50 is out the price has come down. It's a bit smaller and looks a tad different, but is quite comfortable to hold and it's high ISO is much better than the K20's.
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Why not a K30? It's essentially the K50 but in a more dramtic body and it costs les right now.
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I was under the impression (perhaps wrong impression?) that the k-5 was a step above the k-30? Is that not the case?

The k20 was a mid-grade camera. Is the k-30 still in that category? What about the k-5?

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QuoteOriginally posted by mishmatta Quote
I was under the impression (perhaps wrong impression?) that the k-5 was a step above the k-30? Is that not the case?

The k20 was a mid-grade camera. Is the k-30 still in that category? What about the k-5?
The K5 is a step above the K30 but the same holds true of the K5 being a step above the K50. The K50 is merely a K30 in a new, more traditional, camera body. I merely suggested the K30 because you raised the K50 as a possibility.
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The K5 is a step above the K30 but the same holds true of the K5 being a step above the K50. The K50 is merely a K30 in a new, more traditional, camera body. I merely suggested the K30 because you raised the K50 as a possibility.
Thanks for clarification. I assume you use the k5? Do you like? If the k50 and k30 are essentially the same with just slight variations, I'd be open to the 30. But I'd also want to make sure the 30/50 was a noticeable upgrade for the money spent. Does that make sense? I was figuring that the k5 would be a huge jump from the k20.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mishmatta Quote
Thanks for clarification. I assume you use the k5? Do you like? If the k50 and k30 are essentially the same with just slight variations, I'd be open to the 30. But I'd also want to make sure the 30/50 was a noticeable upgrade for the money spent. Does that make sense? I was figuring that the k5 would be a huge jump from the k20.
I do understand. Not having used the K20 I can not say. I'd try this page to walk thought the numbers across the three - K20-30-5
Pentax Cameras | Pentax K-30 vs. Pentax K20D vs. Pentax K-5 - Pentax DSLR Comparison - PentaxForums.com

ISO, Shutter speed, color depth - they are serious improvements in the K-5 over the K-20. They both are the prosumer level camera with dual wheels, top LCDs, etc. They also both take grips (which I find a necessity after having used one for a year+) which the 30/50 does not do.
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K5 if you want a larger buffer and superior LCD. If you prefer to shoot video K30 seems to be the right way.

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No video for me. I use my grip on my k20 a lot, especially at weddings. maybe the k5 is the way to go. My big issue is ISO. I have colleagues (non-pentax) that we compare wedding shots. They show me pics shot at 3200ISO that are little/no noise. Ha. My 3200 ISO looks straight out of a newspaper.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mishmatta Quote
No video for me. I use my grip on my k20 a lot, especially at weddings. maybe the k5 is the way to go. My big issue is ISO. I have colleagues (non-pentax) that we compare wedding shots. They show me pics shot at 3200ISO that are little/no noise. Ha. My 3200 ISO looks straight out of a newspaper.
If you use your grip a lot then get the K-5. You will be happy with the ISO performance, its a big improvement over older models. The K-5 is going for $650ish new now and a Pentax Grip is $200ish but the non-Pentax grips work fine as long as you do not need WR.
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Huge difference between the k5 & K5II & K5IIs?
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+1 on the grip. I can't imagine being without it.
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QuoteOriginally posted by mishmatta Quote
Huge difference between the k5 & K5II & K5IIs?
Depends upon whom you ask. Adam says its negligible between the K-5 and the II & IIs. I see a real difference between my old K-5 and my new K-5IIs. I have nearly 0 problems with moire BUT for weddings with the dresses and such the IIs is probably NOT a good idea for that reason. But between the II/IIs and K-5 - yes IMHO, particularly in poor light. I also see a MUCH improved AF accurate lock on rate, again particularly in low light, and I have only had to adjust 1 lens on my IIs (nearly all had some adjustment on my K-5).
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Another thing worth mentioning is that the K-5 (and II/IIs) has more than double the battery life of the K-30, 980 vs 410 shots CIPA. On the other hand, the K-30 can eat AA batteries with an adapter. Which the K-5 can too with a grip. Phew...

Anyway, I love the battery capacity of the K-5
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If you had a k20 I would go straight to the K-5, since it's a camera in the same class (i.e. the higher-end model).

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