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02-01-2007, 03:16 AM   #31
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QuoteOriginally posted by slipchuck Quote
I read some reviews of different cameras and checked out the specs etc.
Besides the price, what make a camera a "pro" camera?
I think a sure giveaway is when you see a camera attached to a very large handbag, and a pair of big lenses mounted on the front standing on a corner!!

02-01-2007, 07:36 AM   #32
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where photography is concerend "pro" is definitely a much overused and abused word..

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QuoteOriginally posted by trog100 Quote
where photography is concerend "pro" is definitely a much overused and abused word..
The word Amateur is treatened just as bad, often used in a depreciatory way...
Hey, a new word: depreciatory - I'm an amateur when it comes to Egnlish.

I have turned a lot of pro gear into amateur toys and I have had a lot of fun doing it.
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it shows up as a real word spelt correctly and meaning just what u intended it to mean in my wordweb jonas..

unlike my "concerend".. he he

so u aint so amateur at English as u think.

unless u just mean its a new word to u..


ps.. interestingly there are quite a few weird but simiilar alternaitives to it..

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Its so cut and dry when dealing with camcorders. A pro camcorder will have 3 decent size sensors, mic input and headphone output. A manual focus ring and all sorts of goodies.

Sensor size is pretty much the main feature that sets camcorders apart. If the same held true then one could assume that a professional might want the largest sensor available.

A quick check shows that the Canon 5d has a 36 x 24 mm sensor while the 400d has a 22.2 x 14.8 mm unit.

That reeks of professional specs in my opinion.
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Its just marketing terminology

QuoteOriginally posted by slipchuck Quote
thank you all so far for your input.

You are right, jfdavis58, I already knew the answer to my question (for the most part) before I asked it. But the point is, I asked because I know that getting other people's answers will not only improve mine, but give me food for thought.

What I do like is:
I love and respect different points of view, even if it isn't my own. This is what makes the world turn IMHO

I learn a little bit more about someone by HOW they post their answer, not only information they post. (a wee bit at a time) for example how they defend their answer.

I like a good, clean debate.... to me, there usually isn't usually A right answer, but a sea of information that we gather to make an informed descision. Lord knows I am not always right.... But I like adding my point of view to that vast sea of knowledge, even if no one listens

I learned a lot from this and every post I read.....

thank you to all who answered so far!!

A "professional" grade camera usually means "one designed from the ground up to appeal to the specialist needs of one type of professional photographer".
Such a camera will major on a specific performance aspect whilst being adequate in others for its designed purpose (the nikon D2H being a classic example, as is the Hassy H1). Generally costs are not a major issue since these cameras are amortised by their users as a business expense, or supplied free by agencies/manufacturers.

An "enthusiast" camera will attempt to get as much performance and image quality from a specific budget as possible and are designed to appeal to amateurs and semi-pros with more limited means and less specialist needs who want to do a bit of everything. However, some of these users are still very demanding in IQ terms and are also willing to spend big, hence cameras like the Leica M8. Manufacturers will cut the cloth according to their identified market niche.

However, for many professional users, an enthusiast camera will do the job very adequately for far less outlay and will therefore be a perfectly good choice. If you shoot portraits or weddings, photojournalism or reportage, a K10D will do just fine and in fact may have many advantages in terms of size and weight.

The fact that a professional can use an enthusiasts camera does not make it a pro camera, any more than the fact that owning a 1DS mk 2 makes an overpaid gearhead into a professional.

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