Originally posted by audiobomber But to go back to the original question, fewer pixels does not mean less noise in the image.
Exactly.
A good article on that subject is the
DxOMark article about the (absence of any) influence of pixel size on low-light performance.
Originally posted by Darley Ah Dan but I'm not talking about noise, I'm talking about light sensitivity.
Light sensitivity pretty much equates to noise performance. In terms of quantum efficiency, most sensors are very close to each other; the main difference is how much noise they add on their own.
The sensor in the K100D (shared with the D40, as Dan mentioned) was a Sony sensor and was pretty good for its time. But the better column-parallel conversion architecture Sony used in the sensor for the K-5 is way superior. I have both cameras and there is just no contest. As has been mentioned before, the K-x was a really good low-light performer as well.
Originally posted by Darley So would a modern 6MP sensor be better than a 12MP sensor and if so why don't they make them?!
No, it wouldn't be better.
That's the reason why they are not produced anymore.
BTW, if you downscale a 12MP image to 6MP then you get the same per-pixel noise performance as if you had shot with 6MP in the first place (provided the sensor technology is the same).
Originally posted by Darley I was only going by Ken Rockwell's comparison of the 5D with APS sensors and the images from the 5D were clearly sharper and more detailed. Surely RAW files are not 'smoothed' in any way?
- Avoid Ken Rockwell.
- Avoid Ken Rockwell at all times.
- Make sure any APS-C vs FF comparison is done fairly. If the same f-ratio (say f/2.8) is used for both, the FF shot will always look better. It uses more total amount of light, so the noise levels will be about a stop better. Larger sensors do not have an intrinsic low-light advantage. That is a myth and if you see a comparison that favours a larger sensor then either the larger sensor technology is better, or -- more likely -- the comparison has been done using the same shooting parameters (as opposed to the "equivalent" ones).
- Some RAW data is smoothed. Unfortunately, Pentax belongs to the offenders. Even if you turn off all optional in-camera NR, Pentax still massages high-ISO RAW files to achieve better noise performance.
BTW, you can pretty much trust DxOMark results.
They do not look at spatial resolution when looking at high-ISO noise but then nobody does.
In other words, you won't find better measurements anywhere else and whatever RAW data massaging goes on is not that terrible that it invalidates the figures they report.