Let's play an interesting game!

foxglove · 01-20-2007, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by Wethphotography

In graduate school, we used to refer to statistics as the "bitch/goddess" of history because you could use the same numbers to reach different conclusions. With that said, now that the voting has occured, anyone care to summarize the results, as limited as they are?

Which card were taken by which camera/lens, etc....

You can look all that up in the thread at dpreview, the post after the pictures. Like I said above, it's interesting but I'm not sure what it tells you about the cameras in regular use.

Julie

RiceHigh · 01-24-2007, 07:08 AM

Originally posted by foxglove

You can look all that up in the thread at dpreview, the post after the pictures. Like I said above, it's interesting but I'm not sure what it tells you about the cameras in regular use.

Julie

Different people have different views or preferences, but there is always a "norm" for what is being good or bad, so here is the poll!

Afterall, I do think also that there should be an objective standard for what is being good or bad.

One can still argue that the target is not a "real life" one, but then the playing card is a true object in our daily life, isn't it? And yes, it's just one type of varous objects in this world, but so do others!

RiceHigh · 01-24-2007, 07:15 AM

Originally posted by Wethphotography

In graduate school, we used to refer to statistics as the "bitch/goddess" of history because you could use the same numbers to reach different conclusions. With that said, now that the voting has occured, anyone care to summarize the results, as limited as they are?

Which card were taken by which camera/lens, etc....

In your mentioned case, although it is not uncommon, is that certain people draw up different conclusions which they intended to present with some kind of maniplulations on the (same) results.

However, for this simple poll, I don't think this can happen, as the voting is so simple and direct and the results so far are clear, distinct and self-explanatory.

Of course, to obtain even more accurate results, more votes (for a larger population for the poll) will be highly desirable.

Nesster · 01-24-2007, 07:23 AM

I thought they all had trouble with the red edges of the heart, as well as the white texture. For me the one with the best compromises was #3 - not a popular choice. #2 was the worst compromise, as the jigglies were evident and the heart and background texture had the inner halos. But then, depending on what I was looking for/at, any one of them could be worst, or best.

trog100 · 01-24-2007, 07:39 AM

okay its only a game.. but to some perhaps it isnt.. to me they are all acceptable.. trying to define what is the "best" from a bunch of "much of a muchness" small crops is a kinda fruitless exercise..

almost as fruitless as trying to define what is the "best" camera..

in a world where we are spoilt for choice trying to define the "best" anything is nothing but an exercise in frustration..

trog

cmv · 01-24-2007, 10:30 PM

All of them have compression artifacts too.

View Poll Results: Pls vote for the best quality image and the worst one!
Best: The Toppest One	18	54.55%
Best: The 2nd Toppest One	6	18.18%
Best: The 3rd Toppest One	8	24.24%
Best: The Bottom One	1	3.03%
Worst: The Toppest One	2	6.06%
Worst: The 2nd Toppest One	5	15.15%
Worst: The 3rd Toppest One	1	3.03%
Worst: The Bottom One	25	75.76%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll

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01-20-2007, 12:12 PM	#16
foxglove Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Atlantic Canada Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,049	Originally posted by Wethphotography In graduate school, we used to refer to statistics as the "bitch/goddess" of history because you could use the same numbers to reach different conclusions. With that said, now that the voting has occured, anyone care to summarize the results, as limited as they are? Which card were taken by which camera/lens, etc.... You can look all that up in the thread at dpreview, the post after the pictures. Like I said above, it's interesting but I'm not sure what it tells you about the cameras in regular use. Julie

01-24-2007, 07:08 AM	#17
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934 Original Poster	Originally posted by foxglove You can look all that up in the thread at dpreview, the post after the pictures. Like I said above, it's interesting but I'm not sure what it tells you about the cameras in regular use. Julie Different people have different views or preferences, but there is always a "norm" for what is being good or bad, so here is the poll! Afterall, I do think also that there should be an objective standard for what is being good or bad. One can still argue that the target is not a "real life" one, but then the playing card is a true object in our daily life, isn't it? And yes, it's just one type of varous objects in this world, but so do others!

01-24-2007, 07:15 AM	#18
RiceHigh Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,934 Original Poster	Originally posted by Wethphotography In graduate school, we used to refer to statistics as the "bitch/goddess" of history because you could use the same numbers to reach different conclusions. With that said, now that the voting has occured, anyone care to summarize the results, as limited as they are? Which card were taken by which camera/lens, etc.... In your mentioned case, although it is not uncommon, is that certain people draw up different conclusions which they intended to present with some kind of maniplulations on the (same) results. However, for this simple poll, I don't think this can happen, as the voting is so simple and direct and the results so far are clear, distinct and self-explanatory. Of course, to obtain even more accurate results, more votes (for a larger population for the poll) will be highly desirable.

01-24-2007, 07:23 AM	#19
Nesster Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: NJ USA Photos: Gallery Posts: 13,072	I thought they all had trouble with the red edges of the heart, as well as the white texture. For me the one with the best compromises was #3 - not a popular choice. #2 was the worst compromise, as the jigglies were evident and the heart and background texture had the inner halos. But then, depending on what I was looking for/at, any one of them could be worst, or best.

01-24-2007, 07:39 AM	#20
trog100 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: UK Posts: 642	okay its only a game.. but to some perhaps it isnt.. to me they are all acceptable.. trying to define what is the "best" from a bunch of "much of a muchness" small crops is a kinda fruitless exercise.. almost as fruitless as trying to define what is the "best" camera.. in a world where we are spoilt for choice trying to define the "best" anything is nothing but an exercise in frustration.. trog

01-24-2007, 10:30 PM	#21
cmv Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Chicago, IL, USA Posts: 147	All of them have compression artifacts too.

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