The K10D Club!

**rayallen** · 01-14-2016, 01:47 AM

Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave

I wish it was WR, Ray, but it's just the standard version.

My first 18-55mm was a version 1 that came with the *ist DS. It was fundamentally unsharp at any focal length or aperture, and I ended up binning it.

My second was the Samsung D-Xenon version. It was reasonably sharp but had a nasty bluish-purple cast to every shot I took with it -- perhaps Samsung used different coatings than Pentax? I gave that one away to a friend.

Third was the 18-55mm WR. Again it was fairly sharp, but it tended to give a pinkish cast to shots. Its rendering style just didn't suit me personally, and I ended up donating it to a charity shop.

I seem to have finally struck lucky with the fourth one. It has a neutral colour rendering and more subtle contrast characteristics than the others, so that finally I've got an 18-55mm that captures shots in something close to the way I naturally see things.

You sure have had a run of bad luck there, Dave. It is good that you now have one that is producing results that you are happy with. That last image you posted looks great for one that had no extra processing. I would say that you now have a keeper...finally.

geol · 01-20-2016, 12:05 PM - **1 Like**

The winter came to South Evia

**paulh** · 01-20-2016, 02:59 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by geol

The winter came to South Evia

Nice tones in this one! Chilly-looking scene.

Taken in November with a Zenitar 16:

**rayallen** · 01-20-2016, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by paulh

Nice tones in this one! Chilly-looking scene.

Taken in November with a Zenitar 16:

Nice reflections, Paul.

**RussV** · 01-21-2016, 05:24 AM

Originally posted by rayallen

Nice reflections, Paul.

+1

How do you find that lens, is it sharp?

**paulh** · 01-21-2016, 08:30 AM

Originally posted by RussV

+1

How do you find that lens, is it sharp?

I love mine

. If you can nail focus, yes the lens can be pretty sharp. Dave will tell you it's even sharper if you remove the little clear filter from the rear of the lens (something I've not tried yet).

I use mine with my *ist D far more than with the K10D. I find the green-button metering to be much more accurate on the *ist D, while the K10D requires a bit of futzing. (something fairly well documented about the K10-K20 series metering) I have several images in my Flickr stream, and posted here in the Soviet Lens Club as well.

Dartmoor Dave · 02-01-2016, 10:31 AM - **2 Likes**

It breaks my heart to see the K10D Club sliding halfway down page 2 in the thread listings, so I was determined to take at least some kind of photo today.

tromboads · 02-01-2016, 02:41 PM

Good on ya Dave

I half expected all that feed to be gone by now... I.e your in winter right?

**ffking** · 02-01-2016, 02:59 PM - **6 Likes**

cloud geese

**paulh** · 02-01-2016, 08:47 PM

Nice images on this page! I've been neglecting my K10 as well, so here's an oldie (2012) with the DAL50-200:

hmirchev · 02-02-2016, 03:19 PM

Hey guys, so I've been enjoying my K10D, using legacy lenses, and recently, I've been asked to be a nightclub photographer by one of my friends who is a DJ....now, I've been using the built-in flash with a Takumar 17 f4, however, I would like to know what external flashes you guys would recommend for that type of photography, with dodgy club lighting. Here's a photo that I took a few days ago, and even though it looks good, the flash is way too intrusive IMO.

Thank you all in advance

tromboads · 02-02-2016, 04:14 PM

Yeah you can make that much more intimate

Since you will be using older lenses, Get any old flash that you can have manual control over, Then hit the strobist up

and practise practise practise practise. :P

Strobist

hmirchev · 02-02-2016, 04:24 PM

any recommendations on older flashes? What are some good models?

and thanks for the link to that blog, ill definitely need some help with using an external flash

tromboads · 02-02-2016, 04:33 PM

There a bunch out there. I have been having fun with the Older Pentax AF200T's

That have a couple of power settings.

1/1
1/2
1/4
1/8

I have been paying $30-40 bucks for them. I believe these are really the only pentax flashes with this wide variety of manual control?

Your flashes need not be pentax mind you! These were just cheap!

And there certainly is some sense in investing in some wireless capable TTL AUTO this and that for when you eventually grow into it.

But for the moment..

Shots below with a K10 and usually just a single AF200T in an umbrella or softbox, usually set at 1/2 power or below.

http://danielboaden.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/bsIMGP6800.jpg
http://danielboaden.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/IMGP6268.jpg
http://danielboaden.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/IMGP6214.jpg

Flashes are fun!

**RussV** · 02-03-2016, 12:33 AM

Don't forget you can reduce the built in flash power for more intimate shots, see page 172 of the manual. Might be all you need.

02-01-2016, 02:41 PM	#1658
tromboads Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Melbs Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,240	Good on ya Dave I half expected all that feed to be gone by now... I.e your in winter right? Last edited by tromboads; 02-01-2016 at 02:46 PM.

02-01-2016, 02:59 PM - 6 Likes	#1659
ffking Site Supporter Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Old South Wales Posts: 6,038	cloud geese Attached Images

02-02-2016, 03:19 PM	#1661
hmirchev Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 332	Hey guys, so I've been enjoying my K10D, using legacy lenses, and recently, I've been asked to be a nightclub photographer by one of my friends who is a DJ....now, I've been using the built-in flash with a Takumar 17 f4, however, I would like to know what external flashes you guys would recommend for that type of photography, with dodgy club lighting. Here's a photo that I took a few days ago, and even though it looks good, the flash is way too intrusive IMO. Thank you all in advance Last edited by hmirchev; 02-02-2016 at 03:20 PM. Reason: added picture

02-02-2016, 04:33 PM	#1664
tromboads Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Melbs Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,240	There a bunch out there. I have been having fun with the Older Pentax AF200T's That have a couple of power settings. 1/1 1/2 1/4 1/8 I have been paying $30-40 bucks for them. I believe these are really the only pentax flashes with this wide variety of manual control? Your flashes need not be pentax mind you! These were just cheap! And there certainly is some sense in investing in some wireless capable TTL AUTO this and that for when you eventually grow into it. But for the moment.. Shots below with a K10 and usually just a single AF200T in an umbrella or softbox, usually set at 1/2 power or below. http://danielboaden.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/bsIMGP6800.jpg http://danielboaden.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/IMGP6268.jpg http://danielboaden.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/IMGP6214.jpg Flashes are fun! Last edited by tromboads; 02-03-2016 at 12:56 AM.

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01-14-2016, 01:47 AM	#1651
rayallen Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Forresters Beach, NSW, Australia. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,014	Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave I wish it was WR, Ray, but it's just the standard version. My first 18-55mm was a version 1 that came with the *ist DS. It was fundamentally unsharp at any focal length or aperture, and I ended up binning it. My second was the Samsung D-Xenon version. It was reasonably sharp but had a nasty bluish-purple cast to every shot I took with it -- perhaps Samsung used different coatings than Pentax? I gave that one away to a friend. Third was the 18-55mm WR. Again it was fairly sharp, but it tended to give a pinkish cast to shots. Its rendering style just didn't suit me personally, and I ended up donating it to a charity shop. I seem to have finally struck lucky with the fourth one. It has a neutral colour rendering and more subtle contrast characteristics than the others, so that finally I've got an 18-55mm that captures shots in something close to the way I naturally see things. You sure have had a run of bad luck there, Dave. It is good that you now have one that is producing results that you are happy with. That last image you posted looks great for one that had no extra processing. I would say that you now have a keeper...finally.

01-20-2016, 02:59 PM - 2 Likes	#1653
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,271	Originally posted by geol The winter came to South Evia Nice tones in this one! Chilly-looking scene. Taken in November with a Zenitar 16:

01-20-2016, 10:21 PM	#1654
rayallen Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Forresters Beach, NSW, Australia. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,014	Originally posted by paulh Nice tones in this one! Chilly-looking scene. Taken in November with a Zenitar 16: Nice reflections, Paul.

01-21-2016, 05:24 AM	#1655
RussV Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2013 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 300	Originally posted by rayallen Nice reflections, Paul. +1 How do you find that lens, is it sharp?

01-21-2016, 08:30 AM	#1656
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,271	Originally posted by RussV +1 How do you find that lens, is it sharp? I love mine . If you can nail focus, yes the lens can be pretty sharp. Dave will tell you it's even sharper if you remove the little clear filter from the rear of the lens (something I've not tried yet). I use mine with my ist D far more than with the K10D. I find the green-button metering to be much more accurate on the ist D, while the K10D requires a bit of futzing. (something fairly well documented about the K10-K20 series metering) I have several images in my Flickr stream, and posted here in the Soviet Lens Club as well.

02-01-2016, 10:31 AM - 2 Likes	#1657
Dartmoor Dave Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Dartmoor, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,882	It breaks my heart to see the K10D Club sliding halfway down page 2 in the thread listings, so I was determined to take at least some kind of photo today.

02-01-2016, 08:47 PM	#1660
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,271	Nice images on this page! I've been neglecting my K10 as well, so here's an oldie (2012) with the DAL50-200:

02-02-2016, 04:14 PM	#1662
tromboads Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Melbs Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,240	Yeah you can make that much more intimate Since you will be using older lenses, Get any old flash that you can have manual control over, Then hit the strobist up and practise practise practise practise. :P Strobist

02-02-2016, 04:24 PM	#1663
hmirchev Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 332	any recommendations on older flashes? What are some good models? and thanks for the link to that blog, ill definitely need some help with using an external flash

02-03-2016, 12:33 AM	#1665
RussV Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2013 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 300	Don't forget you can reduce the built in flash power for more intimate shots, see page 172 of the manual. Might be all you need.