The K10D Club!

**paulh** · 04-08-2017, 03:48 PM - **1 Like**

The old F35-70 has been glued to my K10D for months now. Here's a couple from late December:

**niceshot** · 04-08-2017, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by paulh

The old F35-70 has been glued to my K10D for months now. Here's a couple from late December:

Ihave the same lens only it is only an A 35-70. PRODUCES STUNNING RESULTS. Judging by your pictures the same holds true for the f version.

**paulh** · 04-08-2017, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by niceshot

Ihave the same lens only it is only an A 35-70. PRODUCES STUNNING RESULTS. Judging by your pictures the same holds true for the f version.

Thanks. If it's the f/3.5-4.5 version (not the f/4), then they are probably the same optically. Yup, hard to beat the "look" vintage lenses give you

**goatsNdonkey** · 04-08-2017, 07:07 PM - **5 Likes**

K10D at iso800, Chinar f2.8 35mm at f4 or 5.6

Dartmoor Dave · 04-09-2017, 12:39 AM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by goatsNdonkey

K10D at iso800, Chinar f2.8 35mm at f4 or 5.6

Love it. Really love it. It's intensely atmospheric and perfectly composed, and the visible noise is a major part of why I like it so much. It's a night shot that actually looks like it was taken at night, and that's something that we rarely see these days.

Here's one with the Super Takumar 20mm (xposted in the Takumar Club).

**goatsNdonkey** · 04-09-2017, 05:50 AM

Thanks, Dave!

It was getting darker fast as I was experimenting with exposures. To have a hope of handholding the shot, or not have the sky go black, I had to dial the iso up, and up. I usually keep it pegged at 100.

Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave

Love it. Really love it. It's intensely atmospheric and perfectly composed, and the visible noise is a major part of why I like it so much. It's a night shot that actually looks like it was taken at night, and that's something that we rarely see these days.

Here's one with the Super Takumar 20mm (xposted in the Takumar Club).

woodenbits · 04-09-2017, 12:12 PM

Ahem.... am I the only one not seeing the photo?
Or ... the king is actually naked?

Originally posted by goatsNdonkey

K10D at iso800, Chinar f2.8 35mm at f4 or 5.6

35mmfilmfan · 04-09-2017, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by woodenbits

Ahem.... am I the only one not seeing the photo?

Photo coming through fine for me - it's the moon skulking behind a tree.

Dartmoor Dave · 04-09-2017, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by woodenbits

Ahem.... am I the only one not seeing the photo?
Or ... the king is actually naked?

Perhaps you are seeing it but you don't find it to your taste? Perhaps you feel that it violates certain conventions that you believe to be rules? After all, everyone knows that photographs should be noise free and sharp from corner to corner, with detail visible down to every last pixel. Otherwise, how can we quantify them? How can we use them to tell who owns the best equipment?

If I said that a photograph was immaculate in its digital finery when it wasn't, then I'd be praising the king for sashaying down the street with his dangly bits hanging out. In this case, that's not the case.

Never assume that somebody has failed to conform to a set of arbitrary rules that they might have been uninterested in satisfying in the first place. There is no neutral metalanguage that describes what a photograph should be. I like that photograph very much, and I'd hang it on my wall.

**goatsNdonkey** · 04-09-2017, 03:06 PM - **1 Like**

King? I want to assert here and now that I am of purely mongrel peasant stock.

If it was a statement about a technical problem, the photo not displaying for someone, I don't know how to correct it, since it displays for me and I don't know what the problem would be preventing that for somebody else.

It it was a statement that the picture wasn't appreciated by somebody else, that is what I would expect. I have no quarrel with PFers having different tastes. If fact, there are a few things I could call out as problems with the picture myself. It was just another picture I took. A picture I had some trouble taking, with a lens that doesn't behave as nicely as some others, and in that context I thought it didn't turn out that bad. So I thought I would share it, as one more example of my photography experience. Besides, it was last night's moon here where I live, and maybe someone else might want to see it for that, if not as great art.

I'm always a bit surprised to get likes or, particularly, posted compliments. That some of my posts would not meet some PFer's expectations, consequently, is neither a surprise nor a problem for me. It doesn't take the reading and examination of hundreds of pages of forum discussion pages, as I have done, to realize that participants here are working at a wide range of levels and with as varied objectives as photographers. That is all fine with me. My participation amounts to nothing more than a few drops in a very big bucket. Drip, drip, drip....and, unexpectedly, now and then a slightly bigger splash.

woodenbits · 04-09-2017, 07:06 PM - **1 Like**

Oh mine, I did not anticipate that my post will case so much agony. I apologize for that. For some weird unknown technical reason I really see no picture on that post. And that reference to king and his clothing was just an opaque and awkward reference back to ME feeling a fool, not seeing a picture that everybody is praising. But humor sometimes does not work as intended, especially on internet. I do not mind noisy picture, I am not a purist, and not even a good photographer. I just wanted to enjoy the picture, and was curious if everybody else is able to see it, that is it.

Now I will go back to my corner to sulk. No picture for me today. Will try on different computer/network tomorrow, probably should help with this mystery.

**paulh** · 04-09-2017, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by woodenbits

Oh mine, I did not anticipate that my post will case so much agony. I apologize for that. For some weird unknown technical reason I really see no picture on that post. And that reference to king and his clothing was just an opaque and awkward reference back to ME feeling a fool, not seeing a picture that everybody is praising. But humor sometimes does not work as intended, especially on internet. I do not mind noisy picture, I am not a purist, and not even a good photographer. I just wanted to enjoy the picture, and was curious if everybody else is able to see it, that is it.

Now I will go back to my corner to sulk. No picture for me today. Will try on different computer/network tomorrow, probably should help with this mystery.

No worries. I find that my browser sometimes won't display photos hosted on photobucket for some reason. Other times it will....kinda annoying.

btw, please do post here when you can!

**goatsNdonkey** · 04-09-2017, 08:09 PM

No problem, woodenbits. That's what I thought you had meant, but sometimes critical discussions start up in threads, and I'm not the first to notice. If a photo of mine inadvertently helped trigger such a discussion that is okay. I'm not really going to take it personally.

As for the photo not showing, when my connection is slow, sometimes I have to reload a discussion thread page a few times before every one of the pictures displays on my screen. Could that be what is happening? If so, try reloading the page a few times, and give the page plenty of time, in case most of the page is displayed long before it is done bringing up the last picture.

If the photo still doesn't appear, is there something else that appears where it is supposed to be? Try right clicking on that, and if if the option to "open image in new tab [or window]" is presented, try selecting that option.

Good luck!

Originally posted by woodenbits

Oh mine, I did not anticipate that my post will case so much agony. I apologize for that. For some weird unknown technical reason I really see no picture on that post. And that reference to king and his clothing was just an opaque and awkward reference back to ME feeling a fool, not seeing a picture that everybody is praising. But humor sometimes does not work as intended, especially on internet. I do not mind noisy picture, I am not a purist, and not even a good photographer. I just wanted to enjoy the picture, and was curious if everybody else is able to see it, that is it.

Now I will go back to my corner to sulk. No picture for me today. Will try on different computer/network tomorrow, probably should help with this mystery.

**paulh** · 04-09-2017, 08:21 PM - **2 Likes**

Originally posted by goatsNdonkey

K10D at iso800, Chinar f2.8 35mm at f4 or 5.6

By the way, I have to say I was inspired by your photo last night while out walking the dog. It was starting to get dark, and I came upon this scene and immediately thought of your photo

. It's offtopic here, since it was shot with a K5 (blasphemy!), but here it is in smallish format. Doesn't come close to capturing the mood of your shot, but I tried...

**rayallen** · 04-09-2017, 11:19 PM - **4 Likes**

I had some fun today. I went out with my K10D and a few MF lenses and my new O-ME53 Magnifying Eyecup. Yes, it has made using MF lenses even more enjoyable. Here are some examples of my enjoyment.
The are JPGs taken with DDS (Dartmoor Dave's Settings) and a bit of tweaking on some by me.

Tamron SP 28-70.

Super Takumar 50mm f1.4 (7 element version)

Super Takumar 24mm f3.5

Super Takumar 28mm f3.5

04-09-2017, 11:19 PM - 4 Likes	#2625
rayallen Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Forresters Beach, NSW, Australia. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,014	I had some fun today. I went out with my K10D and a few MF lenses and my new O-ME53 Magnifying Eyecup. Yes, it has made using MF lenses even more enjoyable. Here are some examples of my enjoyment. The are JPGs taken with DDS (Dartmoor Dave's Settings) and a bit of tweaking on some by me. Tamron SP 28-70. Super Takumar 50mm f1.4 (7 element version) Super Takumar 24mm f3.5 Super Takumar 28mm f3.5 Last edited by rayallen; 04-10-2017 at 02:56 AM.

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04-08-2017, 03:48 PM - 1 Like	#2611
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,262	The old F35-70 has been glued to my K10D for months now. Here's a couple from late December:

04-08-2017, 05:57 PM	#2612
niceshot Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: NY Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,564	Originally posted by paulh The old F35-70 has been glued to my K10D for months now. Here's a couple from late December: Ihave the same lens only it is only an A 35-70. PRODUCES STUNNING RESULTS. Judging by your pictures the same holds true for the f version.

04-08-2017, 06:15 PM	#2613
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,262	Originally posted by niceshot Ihave the same lens only it is only an A 35-70. PRODUCES STUNNING RESULTS. Judging by your pictures the same holds true for the f version. Thanks. If it's the f/3.5-4.5 version (not the f/4), then they are probably the same optically. Yup, hard to beat the "look" vintage lenses give you

04-08-2017, 07:07 PM - 5 Likes	#2614
goatsNdonkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Fulton County, Illinois Posts: 3,727	K10D at iso800, Chinar f2.8 35mm at f4 or 5.6

04-09-2017, 12:39 AM - 2 Likes	#2615
Dartmoor Dave Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Dartmoor, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,882	Originally posted by goatsNdonkey K10D at iso800, Chinar f2.8 35mm at f4 or 5.6 Love it. Really love it. It's intensely atmospheric and perfectly composed, and the visible noise is a major part of why I like it so much. It's a night shot that actually looks like it was taken at night, and that's something that we rarely see these days. Here's one with the Super Takumar 20mm (xposted in the Takumar Club).

04-09-2017, 05:50 AM	#2616
goatsNdonkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Fulton County, Illinois Posts: 3,727	Thanks, Dave! It was getting darker fast as I was experimenting with exposures. To have a hope of handholding the shot, or not have the sky go black, I had to dial the iso up, and up. I usually keep it pegged at 100. Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave Love it. Really love it. It's intensely atmospheric and perfectly composed, and the visible noise is a major part of why I like it so much. It's a night shot that actually looks like it was taken at night, and that's something that we rarely see these days. Here's one with the Super Takumar 20mm (xposted in the Takumar Club).

04-09-2017, 12:12 PM	#2617
woodenbits Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 28	Ahem.... am I the only one not seeing the photo? Or ... the king is actually naked? Originally posted by goatsNdonkey K10D at iso800, Chinar f2.8 35mm at f4 or 5.6

04-09-2017, 12:20 PM	#2618
35mmfilmfan Pentaxian Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Norfolk, UK Posts: 4,329	Originally posted by woodenbits Ahem.... am I the only one not seeing the photo? Photo coming through fine for me - it's the moon skulking behind a tree.

04-09-2017, 02:38 PM	#2619
Dartmoor Dave Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Dartmoor, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,882	Originally posted by woodenbits Ahem.... am I the only one not seeing the photo? Or ... the king is actually naked? Perhaps you are seeing it but you don't find it to your taste? Perhaps you feel that it violates certain conventions that you believe to be rules? After all, everyone knows that photographs should be noise free and sharp from corner to corner, with detail visible down to every last pixel. Otherwise, how can we quantify them? How can we use them to tell who owns the best equipment? If I said that a photograph was immaculate in its digital finery when it wasn't, then I'd be praising the king for sashaying down the street with his dangly bits hanging out. In this case, that's not the case. Never assume that somebody has failed to conform to a set of arbitrary rules that they might have been uninterested in satisfying in the first place. There is no neutral metalanguage that describes what a photograph should be. I like that photograph very much, and I'd hang it on my wall.

04-09-2017, 03:06 PM - 1 Like	#2620
goatsNdonkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Fulton County, Illinois Posts: 3,727	King? I want to assert here and now that I am of purely mongrel peasant stock. If it was a statement about a technical problem, the photo not displaying for someone, I don't know how to correct it, since it displays for me and I don't know what the problem would be preventing that for somebody else. It it was a statement that the picture wasn't appreciated by somebody else, that is what I would expect. I have no quarrel with PFers having different tastes. If fact, there are a few things I could call out as problems with the picture myself. It was just another picture I took. A picture I had some trouble taking, with a lens that doesn't behave as nicely as some others, and in that context I thought it didn't turn out that bad. So I thought I would share it, as one more example of my photography experience. Besides, it was last night's moon here where I live, and maybe someone else might want to see it for that, if not as great art. I'm always a bit surprised to get likes or, particularly, posted compliments. That some of my posts would not meet some PFer's expectations, consequently, is neither a surprise nor a problem for me. It doesn't take the reading and examination of hundreds of pages of forum discussion pages, as I have done, to realize that participants here are working at a wide range of levels and with as varied objectives as photographers. That is all fine with me. My participation amounts to nothing more than a few drops in a very big bucket. Drip, drip, drip....and, unexpectedly, now and then a slightly bigger splash.

04-09-2017, 07:06 PM - 1 Like	#2621
woodenbits Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 28	Oh mine, I did not anticipate that my post will case so much agony. I apologize for that. For some weird unknown technical reason I really see no picture on that post. And that reference to king and his clothing was just an opaque and awkward reference back to ME feeling a fool, not seeing a picture that everybody is praising. But humor sometimes does not work as intended, especially on internet. I do not mind noisy picture, I am not a purist, and not even a good photographer. I just wanted to enjoy the picture, and was curious if everybody else is able to see it, that is it. Now I will go back to my corner to sulk. No picture for me today. Will try on different computer/network tomorrow, probably should help with this mystery.

04-09-2017, 07:12 PM	#2622
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,262	Originally posted by woodenbits Oh mine, I did not anticipate that my post will case so much agony. I apologize for that. For some weird unknown technical reason I really see no picture on that post. And that reference to king and his clothing was just an opaque and awkward reference back to ME feeling a fool, not seeing a picture that everybody is praising. But humor sometimes does not work as intended, especially on internet. I do not mind noisy picture, I am not a purist, and not even a good photographer. I just wanted to enjoy the picture, and was curious if everybody else is able to see it, that is it. Now I will go back to my corner to sulk. No picture for me today. Will try on different computer/network tomorrow, probably should help with this mystery. No worries. I find that my browser sometimes won't display photos hosted on photobucket for some reason. Other times it will....kinda annoying. btw, please do post here when you can!

04-09-2017, 08:09 PM	#2623
goatsNdonkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Fulton County, Illinois Posts: 3,727	No problem, woodenbits. That's what I thought you had meant, but sometimes critical discussions start up in threads, and I'm not the first to notice. If a photo of mine inadvertently helped trigger such a discussion that is okay. I'm not really going to take it personally. As for the photo not showing, when my connection is slow, sometimes I have to reload a discussion thread page a few times before every one of the pictures displays on my screen. Could that be what is happening? If so, try reloading the page a few times, and give the page plenty of time, in case most of the page is displayed long before it is done bringing up the last picture. If the photo still doesn't appear, is there something else that appears where it is supposed to be? Try right clicking on that, and if if the option to "open image in new tab [or window]" is presented, try selecting that option. Good luck! Originally posted by woodenbits Oh mine, I did not anticipate that my post will case so much agony. I apologize for that. For some weird unknown technical reason I really see no picture on that post. And that reference to king and his clothing was just an opaque and awkward reference back to ME feeling a fool, not seeing a picture that everybody is praising. But humor sometimes does not work as intended, especially on internet. I do not mind noisy picture, I am not a purist, and not even a good photographer. I just wanted to enjoy the picture, and was curious if everybody else is able to see it, that is it. Now I will go back to my corner to sulk. No picture for me today. Will try on different computer/network tomorrow, probably should help with this mystery.

04-09-2017, 08:21 PM - 2 Likes	#2624
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,262	Originally posted by goatsNdonkey K10D at iso800, Chinar f2.8 35mm at f4 or 5.6 By the way, I have to say I was inspired by your photo last night while out walking the dog. It was starting to get dark, and I came upon this scene and immediately thought of your photo . It's offtopic here, since it was shot with a K5 (blasphemy!), but here it is in smallish format. Doesn't come close to capturing the mood of your shot, but I tried...