Originally posted by ChristianRock I like those a lot. The 4th one is amazing.
There is a K10D with low shutter count in the forums marketplace right now for 70 dollars shipped. I just checked and it's still there. You already have the lenses, so why would you get a Sony with a dim tiny viewfinder when you could have a solid K10D and a pentaprism for less? Especially if you already have K mount glass?
The only Sonys I would consider would be the A290/390 with the last version of the CCD sensor Sony ever did. That 14MP CCD has higher resolution while the noise is a bit better than the 10MP sensor (still not great but a little improvement). And I would use that awesome Zeiss 16-80 3.5-4.5 lens paired up with a Minolta 50 1.4. Good thing I don't have a lot of hobby money, I could get in trouble so easily
Originally posted by The Squirrel Mafia ^ Thanks. If Sony had kept full commitment to the A-mount, I would probably still be shooting with a Sony camera today. They're pretty much E-mount now.
Same here. I'd be in lots of trouble if I had more money.
Found the K10D.
Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave Imagine the camera we could have had if Pentax had ever used that 14MP CCD. I suppose I could use my Taks on an A290/390 with an M42 adapter, which are apparently glassless, but it seems that the bayonet fitting of K mounts forces a thicker adapter with corrective glass. Looks like it would be a lot of hassle for just 4 more megapickles, so on second thoughts I think I'm perfectly happy with 10MP.
Here's one that's not really much of a photo. Just an example of the sort of thing that's becoming depressingly common around here. What's really crazy is that this is 20 minutes drive away from the nearest McDonald's, so their food-like substances must have been cold by the time they got there. (Taken with 17mm Takumar fisheye)
Before I saw the light and got a K10D earlier this year, I had tried a couple of Sonys. First the A350, with a 14MP sensor (CCD I think). I'd already decided my favourite lenses were M42, but just didn't like the lack of viewfinder and un-camera-like ergonomics of my Sony NEX mirrorless so was looking for a DSLR to shoot M42 lenses.
The a350 worked well (Manual mode only, to my annoyance at the time), gave me some great results, and led me (back) down the path of Minolta AF lenses. Some of their original mid 80s line up are fantastic, like the 35-70/4 and 50/2.8 Macro. But the VF wasn't great, and overall the build was a bit plasticky, I didn't love it. Because I wanted to use Av mode back then, I explored further and actually went back in time to Sony's a100. With this one you could use Av mode and M mode with M42 lenses. It was a little simpler to use, and I preferred it over the a100 overall. The 10MP CCD sensor gave me plenty good enough images.
But I still didn't love it, and the VF still wasn't that good. And as great as the Minolta lenses are, I just don't much like shooting AF, so was using them less and less and mostly using M42.
Then I started exploring Pentax again, my first real love when I began getting into 35mm film SLRs five years previous. I came across the K10D, bought it, and found results as good as the Sonys, if not better. Plus the build quality and feel was a whole other world. The Sonys fell like high volume production consumer
SLRs, the type the typical camera/gadget lover would buy, use a dozen times over a year, then upgrade to the next model and throw in a drawer somewhere.
The K10D feels like a proper photographer's camera. Of course to be fair they were aimed at different markets on their release, and were at different price points. So with the K10D it meant I could go easily use M42 and go back to exploring/using K mount lenses again, my second favourite mount after M42.
Part of me wished maybe I'd kept the a350 a little longer rather than sold it so quickly. I didn't realise then the difference between CCD and CMOS, like I didn't realise when I got the K10D that apparently it has the same Sony sensor as I was using in the Sony a100!! But I know the annoyances would remain - M mode only, average VF, plasticky feel. I'd rather take the extra class and quality of the K10D over the extra potential of the a350's 14MP versus 10MP.
Since having the K10D I still shoot M42 a lot (mostly Takumars) but use A series K mount at least as much. Which of course I couldn't have done with the Sony's, so absolutely no regrets.
Cheap as the Sonys are (I think I sold my a100 for about £60, and the a350 for around £100), I couldn't recommend them over a K10D (mine cost £90 with kit lens, my Samsung GX10 clone cost £55 body only) or a 6MP CCD Pentax or Samsung (my GX-1s was about £50) for the extra class and feel you get, plus access to the wonderful world of 42 years' worth and counting of K mount lenses...
Both of the above taken with Samsung GX-10 at ISO400. Whilst ISO100 is my default and is used for 95% of shots, sometimes in very low light I got to 200 or 400. I actually like the soft "grain" you get at 400, reminds me of film...