The K10D Club!

**chuck_c** · 10-22-2017, 01:47 PM - **6 Likes**

with the SMC Takumar 28mm f3.5

Red sky in the morning by Chuck Campbell, on Flickr

**rayallen** · 10-23-2017, 02:44 PM - **5 Likes**

A new groyne (stone seawall) is being built at one of our local beaches to try to stop the sand washing away. Construction has only just started on this $2 million project and I intend to document its progress. K10D and Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4.0 DC Macro HSM.

Will it work? Who knows. But if it doesn't it is going to be hard to unscramble the egg.

**goatsNdonkey** · 10-23-2017, 07:56 PM

Tamron SP f/5.6 300mm (54B), wide open.
K10D, at iso 800 (noise reduction ON).
Cloudy morning.

**beachgardener** · 10-24-2017, 03:54 AM

Originally posted by rayallen

Will it work?

maybe, but the northern side of the groin will most likely suffer erosion.

**paulh** · 10-24-2017, 09:39 AM - **6 Likes**

My sister adopted a beautiful 8 yr old lab recently. She's the sweetest thing

Here's Daisy on her patio.
K10D & DA18-55

ChristianRock · 10-26-2017, 07:44 AM

Originally posted by rayallen

A new groyne (stone seawall) is being built at one of our local beaches to try to stop the sand washing away. Construction has only just started on this $2 million project and I intend to document its progress. K10D and Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4.0 DC Macro HSM.

Will it work? Who knows. But if it doesn't it is going to be hard to unscramble the egg.

Ray,

Is this the Contemporary version of the Sigma 17-70, or the previous one? Either way I am pretty impressed with the output with the K10D, it seems like it's a very good match. Maybe my GAS is lighting up again and I need a new walkaround lens?

Maybe selling my DA 16-45 and Tokina 19-35 would get me one...

**paulh** · 10-26-2017, 09:51 AM

CR, I believe Ray owns the C-version with HSM. I owned the original screwdrive version (wish I still did), and I can tell you it is indeed a very nice lens. Ray gets some great images with his!

The pathway home...there's a bench just barely visible thru the grass. F35-70:

ChristianRock · 10-26-2017, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by paulh

CR, I believe Ray owns the C-version with HSM. I owned the original screwdrive version (wish I still did), and I can tell you it is indeed a very nice lens. Ray gets some great images with his!

He does indeed.

The pre-C version of the Sigma 17-70 was also HSM and was also f/2.8-4 (yours, I believe, was f/2.8-4.5). That is why I was asking... some reviews say the C version is better, but Lenstip said the previous version was better. Looking at flickr photos I thought the newer C was sharper at one important FL: 70mm and f4, where portraits looked great. I've thought about this Sigma for a while, but I'd have to sell the 16-45mm... and I haven't been able to bring myself to it. 16mm is very useful indoors nice and wide, and low distortion even when people are near the edges of the frame! the perfect indoor party lens when combined with a flash. I think I'd miss the Pentax colors, too. But now I'm also getting terrific results with the Sigma 30 1.4 Art, so I keep thinking about adding more Sigmas to the bag... I'm so glad Pentax still shows commitment to their large APS-C base with new lenses like the DA*11-18mm f/2.8 which is coming up soon. I think I'll stay fine with APS-C for now...

**paulh** · 10-26-2017, 12:00 PM - **3 Likes**

Originally posted by ChristianRock

The pre-C version of the Sigma 17-70 was also HSM and was also f/2.8-4 (yours, I believe, was f/2.8-4.5)

That's correct. I actually sought out the screwdrive version so I could use it with my old 6 mpx bodies. I acquired a super clean copy from member SpecialK. It's a solid lens and a bit front-heavy, but still very manageable. Very sharp from wide open with a useful pseudo-macro mode. It doesn't have the Pentax colors but that can be mostly remedied in post. btw, I recently purchased a very clean used DA16-45/4. Really nice and 16mm is very handy! I have to admit not being totally blown away, however. I think I was a bit spoiled having an exceptional copy of the 18-55 kit lens! But the 16-45 will be getting plenty of use

Oh, and like you, I'm firmly entrenched in aps-c land.

Here's Doc with the 17-70 DC macro, at f/3.5:

**rayallen** · 10-26-2017, 02:45 PM

Originally posted by ChristianRock

Ray,

Is this the Contemporary version of the Sigma 17-70, or the previous one? Either way I am pretty impressed with the output with the K10D, it seems like it's a very good match. Maybe my GAS is lighting up again and I need a new walkaround lens?

Maybe selling my DA 16-45 and Tokina 19-35 would get me one...

Hi CR,

Yes, it is the Comtemporary version which accepts the USB Dock (which I have). I have always been impressed with this lens on the K10D. I bought it as an upgrade of my DA 18-55mm WR and it instantly improved my images. It is larger and a bit heavier but it is worth it for the wider aperture, 1mm extra at the wide end and 15mm at the long end. The silent HSM focussing is nice and that was OK with me as I don't have anything older than the K10D. Since I got it the poor old 18-55 has not seen much use and must be feeling unloved. I keep telling myself that I must use it more often. One day...

ChristianRock · 10-26-2017, 03:29 PM

Originally posted by rayallen

Hi CR,

Yes, it is the Comtemporary version which accepts the USB Dock (which I have). I have always been impressed with this lens on the K10D. I bought it as an upgrade of my DA 18-55mm WR and it instantly improved my images. It is larger and a bit heavier but it is worth it for the wider aperture, 1mm extra at the wide end and 15mm at the long end. The silent HSM focussing is nice and that was OK with me as I don't have anything older than the K10D. Since I got it the poor old 18-55 has not seen much use and must be feeling unloved. I keep telling myself that I must use it more often. One day...

Nice. I like the HSM in my Sigma 30 1.4 Art, I think it's probably about the same. Not completely silent but silent enough.

Now to think about 16-45 vs Sigma 17-70...

And just sell that 18-55

Not worth keeping a lens you aren't using...

GeeWiggles · 10-26-2017, 04:40 PM - **2 Likes**

I've gotten some great shots with my K10D and 200mm pentax smc zoom lens. All these are from the Evansville, Indiana Zoo.

**rayallen** · 10-27-2017, 01:19 AM - **7 Likes**

Originally posted by ChristianRock

Now to think about 16-45 vs Sigma 17-70...

And just sell that 18-55

Not worth keeping a lens you aren't using...

I don't expect that I will see the 18-55mm WR. I still like it. And I still have my original version 1 18-55mm that came with the K10D.

Maybe the following might influence your choice of the Sigma 17-70. I sometimes feel that I overprocess my images so today, after attending day 1 of Chromefest, the only processing I did was to resize the JPGs SOOC. K10D JPGs are good enough to do that.

A few more here: Chromefest 2017 K10D | Flickr

Two more days to go so expect a few more.

ChristianRock · 10-27-2017, 05:56 AM

Those are wonderful, Ray!

**goatsNdonkey** · 10-27-2017, 06:03 AM

Ray, what in-camera jpeg settings were you using for those shots, for example: vivid/natural, contrast, saturation, sharpness?

Originally posted by rayallen

I don't expect that I will see the 18-55mm WR. I still like it. And I still have my original version 1 18-55mm that came with the K10D.

Maybe the following might influence your choice of the Sigma 17-70. I sometimes feel that I overprocess my images so today, after attending day 1 of Chromefest, the only processing I did was to resize the JPGs SOOC. K10D JPGs are good enough to do that.

A few more here: Chromefest 2017 K10D | Flickr

Two more days to go so expect a few more.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
I started a K-5 Praise thread, now the Complaint thread	imtheguy	Pentax K-5 & K-5 II	46	11-01-2010 09:20 AM
Suggestion Add Previous/Next Thread links at the top of each thread	indytax	Site Suggestions and Help	3	03-17-2009 05:40 PM
Iceemn360's K10d Photo Thread	Timtast1c	Post Your Photos!	50	01-10-2009 02:43 PM
Mandatory thread from new K10D owner :)	Edvinas	Pentax DSLR Discussion	9	12-08-2006 07:34 PM

10-22-2017, 01:47 PM - 6 Likes	#3226
chuck_c Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Westerville, OH Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 1,588	with the SMC Takumar 28mm f3.5 Red sky in the morning by Chuck Campbell, on Flickr

10-23-2017, 02:44 PM - 5 Likes	#3227
rayallen Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Forresters Beach, NSW, Australia. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,014	A new groyne (stone seawall) is being built at one of our local beaches to try to stop the sand washing away. Construction has only just started on this $2 million project and I intend to document its progress. K10D and Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4.0 DC Macro HSM. Will it work? Who knows. But if it doesn't it is going to be hard to unscramble the egg.

10-23-2017, 07:56 PM	#3228
goatsNdonkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Fulton County, Illinois Posts: 3,727	Tamron SP f/5.6 300mm (54B), wide open. K10D, at iso 800 (noise reduction ON). Cloudy morning.

10-24-2017, 03:54 AM	#3229
beachgardener Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Australia Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,842	Originally posted by rayallen Will it work? maybe, but the northern side of the groin will most likely suffer erosion.

10-24-2017, 09:39 AM - 6 Likes	#3230
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,252	My sister adopted a beautiful 8 yr old lab recently. She's the sweetest thing Here's Daisy on her patio. K10D & DA18-55

10-26-2017, 07:44 AM	#3231
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,910	Originally posted by rayallen A new groyne (stone seawall) is being built at one of our local beaches to try to stop the sand washing away. Construction has only just started on this $2 million project and I intend to document its progress. K10D and Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4.0 DC Macro HSM. Will it work? Who knows. But if it doesn't it is going to be hard to unscramble the egg. Ray, Is this the Contemporary version of the Sigma 17-70, or the previous one? Either way I am pretty impressed with the output with the K10D, it seems like it's a very good match. Maybe my GAS is lighting up again and I need a new walkaround lens? Maybe selling my DA 16-45 and Tokina 19-35 would get me one...

10-26-2017, 09:51 AM	#3232
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,252	CR, I believe Ray owns the C-version with HSM. I owned the original screwdrive version (wish I still did), and I can tell you it is indeed a very nice lens. Ray gets some great images with his! The pathway home...there's a bench just barely visible thru the grass. F35-70:

10-26-2017, 10:30 AM	#3233
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,910	Originally posted by paulh CR, I believe Ray owns the C-version with HSM. I owned the original screwdrive version (wish I still did), and I can tell you it is indeed a very nice lens. Ray gets some great images with his! He does indeed. The pre-C version of the Sigma 17-70 was also HSM and was also f/2.8-4 (yours, I believe, was f/2.8-4.5). That is why I was asking... some reviews say the C version is better, but Lenstip said the previous version was better. Looking at flickr photos I thought the newer C was sharper at one important FL: 70mm and f4, where portraits looked great. I've thought about this Sigma for a while, but I'd have to sell the 16-45mm... and I haven't been able to bring myself to it. 16mm is very useful indoors nice and wide, and low distortion even when people are near the edges of the frame! the perfect indoor party lens when combined with a flash. I think I'd miss the Pentax colors, too. But now I'm also getting terrific results with the Sigma 30 1.4 Art, so I keep thinking about adding more Sigmas to the bag... I'm so glad Pentax still shows commitment to their large APS-C base with new lenses like the DA*11-18mm f/2.8 which is coming up soon. I think I'll stay fine with APS-C for now...

10-26-2017, 12:00 PM - 3 Likes	#3234
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,252	Originally posted by ChristianRock The pre-C version of the Sigma 17-70 was also HSM and was also f/2.8-4 (yours, I believe, was f/2.8-4.5) That's correct. I actually sought out the screwdrive version so I could use it with my old 6 mpx bodies. I acquired a super clean copy from member SpecialK. It's a solid lens and a bit front-heavy, but still very manageable. Very sharp from wide open with a useful pseudo-macro mode. It doesn't have the Pentax colors but that can be mostly remedied in post. btw, I recently purchased a very clean used DA16-45/4. Really nice and 16mm is very handy! I have to admit not being totally blown away, however. I think I was a bit spoiled having an exceptional copy of the 18-55 kit lens! But the 16-45 will be getting plenty of use Oh, and like you, I'm firmly entrenched in aps-c land. Here's Doc with the 17-70 DC macro, at f/3.5:

10-26-2017, 02:45 PM	#3235
rayallen Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Forresters Beach, NSW, Australia. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,014	Originally posted by ChristianRock Ray, Is this the Contemporary version of the Sigma 17-70, or the previous one? Either way I am pretty impressed with the output with the K10D, it seems like it's a very good match. Maybe my GAS is lighting up again and I need a new walkaround lens? Maybe selling my DA 16-45 and Tokina 19-35 would get me one... Hi CR, Yes, it is the Comtemporary version which accepts the USB Dock (which I have). I have always been impressed with this lens on the K10D. I bought it as an upgrade of my DA 18-55mm WR and it instantly improved my images. It is larger and a bit heavier but it is worth it for the wider aperture, 1mm extra at the wide end and 15mm at the long end. The silent HSM focussing is nice and that was OK with me as I don't have anything older than the K10D. Since I got it the poor old 18-55 has not seen much use and must be feeling unloved. I keep telling myself that I must use it more often. One day...

10-26-2017, 03:29 PM	#3236
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,910	Originally posted by rayallen Hi CR, Yes, it is the Comtemporary version which accepts the USB Dock (which I have). I have always been impressed with this lens on the K10D. I bought it as an upgrade of my DA 18-55mm WR and it instantly improved my images. It is larger and a bit heavier but it is worth it for the wider aperture, 1mm extra at the wide end and 15mm at the long end. The silent HSM focussing is nice and that was OK with me as I don't have anything older than the K10D. Since I got it the poor old 18-55 has not seen much use and must be feeling unloved. I keep telling myself that I must use it more often. One day... Nice. I like the HSM in my Sigma 30 1.4 Art, I think it's probably about the same. Not completely silent but silent enough. Now to think about 16-45 vs Sigma 17-70... And just sell that 18-55 Not worth keeping a lens you aren't using...

10-27-2017, 01:19 AM - 7 Likes	#3238
rayallen Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Forresters Beach, NSW, Australia. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,014	Originally posted by ChristianRock Now to think about 16-45 vs Sigma 17-70... And just sell that 18-55 Not worth keeping a lens you aren't using... I don't expect that I will see the 18-55mm WR. I still like it. And I still have my original version 1 18-55mm that came with the K10D. Maybe the following might influence your choice of the Sigma 17-70. I sometimes feel that I overprocess my images so today, after attending day 1 of Chromefest, the only processing I did was to resize the JPGs SOOC. K10D JPGs are good enough to do that. A few more here: Chromefest 2017 K10D \| Flickr Two more days to go so expect a few more.

10-27-2017, 05:56 AM	#3239
ChristianRock Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: People's Republic of America Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,910	Those are wonderful, Ray!

10-27-2017, 06:03 AM	#3240
goatsNdonkey Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Fulton County, Illinois Posts: 3,727	Ray, what in-camera jpeg settings were you using for those shots, for example: vivid/natural, contrast, saturation, sharpness? Originally posted by rayallen I don't expect that I will see the 18-55mm WR. I still like it. And I still have my original version 1 18-55mm that came with the K10D. Maybe the following might influence your choice of the Sigma 17-70. I sometimes feel that I overprocess my images so today, after attending day 1 of Chromefest, the only processing I did was to resize the JPGs SOOC. K10D JPGs are good enough to do that. A few more here: Chromefest 2017 K10D \| Flickr Two more days to go so expect a few more.

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
	Search this Thread: Advanced Search