The K10D Club!

vjacesslav · 04-02-2014, 03:18 PM

Pentax K10D - one shot from last trip around Slovakia

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**rbefly** · 04-02-2014, 05:44 PM

Thanks to everyone for keeping this thread alive.
Here's a few more K10D shots, using different lenses. I believe 2 are the smc A 35mm f/2.8, # 3 is the smc A 135mm f/2.8, # 4 the FA 100mm f/3.5 Macro and last, the Vivitar S1 90mm f/2.5 Macro, aka Bokina. The colors! The rendering, hue and color density are just different from C-MOS sensors.
Long live the CCD. This camera is a classic!
Ron

calicojack · 04-02-2014, 06:08 PM - **1 Like**

Originally posted by rbefly

Thanks to everyone for keeping this thread alive.
<snip> The rendering, hue and color density are just different from C-MOS sensors.
Long live the CCD. This camera is a classic!
Ron

Yes, it truly is quite different. I've always appreciated my K10D, but figured it was time to move up. Now, I find myself wondering how to make the images from my new K5ii come alive and look like my K10D images. I guess I'll soon give up on that and start trying to maximize my K5ii without comparison.

**rayallen** · 04-03-2014, 01:51 AM

Originally posted by paulh

Thru-the-windshield shot on a Saturday drive - K10D & 18-55 kit lens (xposted)

I hope you were not driving, Paul.

vjacesslav · 04-03-2014, 02:50 AM

CCD, so said that there is no research & development in this field... Or maybe yes and I do not know about it?

**rbefly** · 04-03-2014, 04:48 AM

Here's a link from 2011, explaining the main differences and how the CMOS is taking over for camera sensors.
CMOS Is Winning the Camera Sensor Battle, and Here's Why | TechHive
But I believe the CCD is still used in some optical devices. As far as I know, the K10D used the highest Mp (10.1) CCD made, before CMOS took over DSLRs completely. I'm hanging on to mine!
Ron

**baro-nite** · 04-03-2014, 07:57 AM

Originally posted by rbefly

As far as I know, the K10D used the highest Mp (10.1) CCD made, before CMOS took over DSLRs completely.

Don't forget the 645D.

vjacesslav · 04-03-2014, 08:00 AM

Thank You Ron for the link about CCD vs CMOS
I´ve just seen that Leica does not cost extra money and it is FF with CMOS...I know then i have to take in price of lenses... But I can buy FF leica with one lens for price cheaper than new FUJIfilm X100

---------- Post added 3rd Apr 2014 at 17:01 ----------

Maybe the prices of 645D will touch 2000 euros after 645Z is comming

**pacerr** · 04-07-2014, 08:49 PM

The K200D is another path to the 10 Mp CCD sensor. It's WR, a compact size (more like the K5), uses AA/Eneloop batteries, darn near bulletproof - no firmware fixes except to allow higher Mp SD cards, and works well with split-prism and/or diopter VF assist accessories, IME.

You give up a little elbow room for cropping and some DR relative to the current CMOS sensors and it's noise limited much above ISO 400 but as an outdoor field camera it shines on its own merits. It's the new K1000 of Pentax DSLRs.

You don't see 'em used for sale much 'cause I suspect those of us that appreciate 'em tend to hold on to 'em in the present price/demand market.

Oldhand · 04-07-2014, 10:06 PM - **1 Like**

K10-D and Industar 52mm f2.8
No PP
OH

mike7fa · 04-08-2014, 06:52 AM

There is something special about this thread that makes me want to come back to it frequently. It has to be the enthusiasm of the posters for the unique rendering of color in the K10d images.

---------- Post added 08-04-14 at 10:00 AM ----------

Originally posted by Oldhand

K10-D and Industar 52mm f2.8
No PP
OH

Beautiful. Is that an m42 lens?

graham641 · 04-08-2014, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by rbefly

Hello All,
This thread is dedicated to a very important part of the Pentax DSLR history; The venerable K10D.
The 'Ten' is significant in many ways; Introduced in late 2006, it featured a CCD sensor of 10.2MP, ISO range of 100-1600 and had AF assist with SDM lenses. It was the first Pentax DSLR with shake reduction, dust removal, had 2 control wheels and used a D-L150 lithium battery rather than 4 x AA's. These were all upgrades from the previous flagship model, the *ist DS2. It came in a sturdy, somewhat squared-off body design that contrasted with the popular curved designs of the time. There was an optional BG2 battery grip available which doubled the shooting time, had a vertical-position shutter release and duplicated the main exposure controls and wheels in portrait orientation.
The K10D garnered great reviews from many testers and won several major awards, including the 'Best Expert Digital SLR' 2007 from TIPA, European Camera Of The Year, American Photo's Editor's Choice for 'Best Advanced Digital SLR' and the prestigious Camera Grand Prix 'Camera Of The Year' 2007. This award resulted in a limited edition brown 'Grand Prix' version by Pentax, released in 2007.
It was succeeded by the K20D in 2008.
The MSRP for the K10D at launch was $1,379 US and the 'street' price around $900 - $1,000. The kit lens offered was the first version of the DA 18-55mm.
In features, MP and price, it compared to the Sony a100, Nikon D80, Canon Rebel XTi and Olympus E400. But the performance soon had it being tested (favorably!) against higher-priced models of the competition, like the Nikon D200 and Canon EOS 30D.
By modern standards, the specs are quite modest. AF sensitivity -1 to 18 EV, shutter speed 30s to 1/4000s, burst shooting rate 3 fps in jpeg, no HDR, no LV, no video capabilities, no lens correction, no TTL. The high-ISO performance is lacking, compared to the contemporary cameras.
Still, over time the respect for this fine digital body has grown widely. Used within its limitations, the CCD sensor delivers RAW images that are truly magical and if the ISO is kept at the lower end, the colors, saturation and rendering are unmatched for beauty. It can be, under ideal conditions, more film-like in rendering than most CMOS-equipped cameras, even the most modern ones.
Hopefully this thread will provide a place for K10D users to discuss their experiences, and post examples of photos taken with the Ten.
The K10D lives on!
Ron

I only recently replaced my K10d for a camera with better ISO performance since I am doing a lot of action shots. I was continually surprised that there were so few positive reviews on the camera. It seemed it was being dismissed by the photography community. I think it is a well made camera and still has many hard to find features like good weatherproofing.

pentaxpete · 04-09-2014, 01:45 AM

Here are four of the 98 photos I took for the local 'Marlborough Dramatic Club ' at their Dress Reahearsal for 'Northanger Abbey' by Jane Austin -- I used twin Multiblitz flashes soe some , ISO 100 and f8 to f11 and for some tried the stage lighting, ISO 800 and tungsten balance -- lenses tried were my 28-70mm f4 SMC Pentax-FA and 50mm f1.7 SMC Pentax-A ( used f2.8 or f2)
Stage Lighting with the 50mm lens

Flash lighting

Flash Lighting

Flash Lighting

mike7fa · 04-09-2014, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by pentaxpete

Here are four of the 98 photos I took for the local 'Marlborough Dramatic Club ' at their Dress Reahearsal for 'Northanger Abbey' by Jane Austin -- I used twin Multiblitz flashes soe some , ISO 100 and f8 to f11 and for some tried the stage lighting, ISO 800 and tungsten balance -- lenses tried were my 28-70mm f4 SMC Pentax-FA and 50mm f1.7 SMC Pentax-A ( used f2.8 or f2)
Stage Lighting with the 50mm lens

Flash lighting

Flash Lighting

Flash Lighting

That's great series of of the dress rehearsal. Always tricky when you also have stage lights to contend with. Congrats!

**paulh** · 04-09-2014, 04:03 PM

@pentaxpete: nice flash work!

Busy & bubbly bokeh at the wide end of the kit lens...(xposted)

04-03-2014, 04:48 AM	#396
rbefly Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Denver, Colorado Photos: Albums Posts: 2,030 Original Poster	CCD and C-MOS? Here's a link from 2011, explaining the main differences and how the CMOS is taking over for camera sensors. CMOS Is Winning the Camera Sensor Battle, and Here's Why \| TechHive But I believe the CCD is still used in some optical devices. As far as I know, the K10D used the highest Mp (10.1) CCD made, before CMOS took over DSLRs completely. I'm hanging on to mine! Ron

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calicojack Inactive Account Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island, N.Y. Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,124	Originally posted by rbefly Thanks to everyone for keeping this thread alive. <snip> The rendering, hue and color density are just different from C-MOS sensors. Long live the CCD. This camera is a classic! Ron Yes, it truly is quite different. I've always appreciated my K10D, but figured it was time to move up. Now, I find myself wondering how to make the images from my new K5ii come alive and look like my K10D images. I guess I'll soon give up on that and start trying to maximize my K5ii without comparison.

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rayallen Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Forresters Beach, NSW, Australia. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,014	Originally posted by paulh Thru-the-windshield shot on a Saturday drive - K10D & 18-55 kit lens (xposted) I hope you were not driving, Paul.

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vjacesslav Marketplace Reseller Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Košice, Czechoslovakia, Europe Union Photos: Gallery Posts: 366	CCD, so said that there is no research & development in this field... Or maybe yes and I do not know about it?

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baro-nite Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: North Carolina, USA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 5,294	Originally posted by rbefly As far as I know, the K10D used the highest Mp (10.1) CCD made, before CMOS took over DSLRs completely. Don't forget the 645D.

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vjacesslav Marketplace Reseller Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Košice, Czechoslovakia, Europe Union Photos: Gallery Posts: 366	Thank You Ron for the link about CCD vs CMOS I´ve just seen that Leica does not cost extra money and it is FF with CMOS...I know then i have to take in price of lenses... But I can buy FF leica with one lens for price cheaper than new FUJIfilm X100 ---------- Post added 3rd Apr 2014 at 17:01 ---------- Maybe the prices of 645D will touch 2000 euros after 645Z is comming

04-07-2014, 08:49 PM	#399
pacerr Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Paris, TN Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,349	The K200D is another path to the 10 Mp CCD sensor. It's WR, a compact size (more like the K5), uses AA/Eneloop batteries, darn near bulletproof - no firmware fixes except to allow higher Mp SD cards, and works well with split-prism and/or diopter VF assist accessories, IME. You give up a little elbow room for cropping and some DR relative to the current CMOS sensors and it's noise limited much above ISO 400 but as an outdoor field camera it shines on its own merits. It's the new K1000 of Pentax DSLRs. You don't see 'em used for sale much 'cause I suspect those of us that appreciate 'em tend to hold on to 'em in the present price/demand market.

04-08-2014, 06:52 AM	#401
mike7fa Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Niagara, Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 57	There is something special about this thread that makes me want to come back to it frequently. It has to be the enthusiasm of the posters for the unique rendering of color in the K10d images. ---------- Post added 08-04-14 at 10:00 AM ---------- Originally posted by Oldhand K10-D and Industar 52mm f2.8 No PP OH Beautiful. Is that an m42 lens?

04-08-2014, 09:11 PM	#402
graham641 New Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 8	Originally posted by rbefly Hello All, This thread is dedicated to a very important part of the Pentax DSLR history; The venerable K10D. The 'Ten' is significant in many ways; Introduced in late 2006, it featured a CCD sensor of 10.2MP, ISO range of 100-1600 and had AF assist with SDM lenses. It was the first Pentax DSLR with shake reduction, dust removal, had 2 control wheels and used a D-L150 lithium battery rather than 4 x AA's. These were all upgrades from the previous flagship model, the *ist DS2. It came in a sturdy, somewhat squared-off body design that contrasted with the popular curved designs of the time. There was an optional BG2 battery grip available which doubled the shooting time, had a vertical-position shutter release and duplicated the main exposure controls and wheels in portrait orientation. The K10D garnered great reviews from many testers and won several major awards, including the 'Best Expert Digital SLR' 2007 from TIPA, European Camera Of The Year, American Photo's Editor's Choice for 'Best Advanced Digital SLR' and the prestigious Camera Grand Prix 'Camera Of The Year' 2007. This award resulted in a limited edition brown 'Grand Prix' version by Pentax, released in 2007. It was succeeded by the K20D in 2008. The MSRP for the K10D at launch was $1,379 US and the 'street' price around $900 - $1,000. The kit lens offered was the first version of the DA 18-55mm. In features, MP and price, it compared to the Sony a100, Nikon D80, Canon Rebel XTi and Olympus E400. But the performance soon had it being tested (favorably!) against higher-priced models of the competition, like the Nikon D200 and Canon EOS 30D. By modern standards, the specs are quite modest. AF sensitivity -1 to 18 EV, shutter speed 30s to 1/4000s, burst shooting rate 3 fps in jpeg, no HDR, no LV, no video capabilities, no lens correction, no TTL. The high-ISO performance is lacking, compared to the contemporary cameras. Still, over time the respect for this fine digital body has grown widely. Used within its limitations, the CCD sensor delivers RAW images that are truly magical and if the ISO is kept at the lower end, the colors, saturation and rendering are unmatched for beauty. It can be, under ideal conditions, more film-like in rendering than most CMOS-equipped cameras, even the most modern ones. Hopefully this thread will provide a place for K10D users to discuss their experiences, and post examples of photos taken with the Ten. The K10D lives on! Ron I only recently replaced my K10d for a camera with better ISO performance since I am doing a lot of action shots. I was continually surprised that there were so few positive reviews on the camera. It seemed it was being dismissed by the photography community. I think it is a well made camera and still has many hard to find features like good weatherproofing.

04-09-2014, 01:45 AM	#403
pentaxpete Pentaxian Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Brentwood, Essex Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 366	Here are four of the 98 photos I took for the local 'Marlborough Dramatic Club ' at their Dress Reahearsal for 'Northanger Abbey' by Jane Austin -- I used twin Multiblitz flashes soe some , ISO 100 and f8 to f11 and for some tried the stage lighting, ISO 800 and tungsten balance -- lenses tried were my 28-70mm f4 SMC Pentax-FA and 50mm f1.7 SMC Pentax-A ( used f2.8 or f2) Stage Lighting with the 50mm lens Flash lighting Flash Lighting Flash Lighting

04-09-2014, 02:08 PM	#404
mike7fa Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Niagara, Ontario Photos: Gallery Posts: 57	Originally posted by pentaxpete Here are four of the 98 photos I took for the local 'Marlborough Dramatic Club ' at their Dress Reahearsal for 'Northanger Abbey' by Jane Austin -- I used twin Multiblitz flashes soe some , ISO 100 and f8 to f11 and for some tried the stage lighting, ISO 800 and tungsten balance -- lenses tried were my 28-70mm f4 SMC Pentax-FA and 50mm f1.7 SMC Pentax-A ( used f2.8 or f2) Stage Lighting with the 50mm lens Flash lighting Flash Lighting Flash Lighting That's great series of of the dress rehearsal. Always tricky when you also have stage lights to contend with. Congrats!

04-09-2014, 04:03 PM	#405
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,271	@pentaxpete: nice flash work! Busy & bubbly bokeh at the wide end of the kit lens...(xposted)