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07-29-2014, 02:55 AM   #601
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QuoteOriginally posted by RussV Quote
It must be the compression and or resizing applied here during up loads.
You may be right Russ.
It is very disappointing nonetheless - particularly as one has to pay for the privilege of uploading to this forum.
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You may be right Russ.
It is very disappointing nonetheless - particularly as one has to pay for the privilege of uploading to this forum.
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It might be worth doing some investigation into the preferred sizes on this forum and then resizing yourself, quality might be better if the up load process doesn't need to do anything.
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It might be worth doing some investigation into the preferred sizes on this forum and then resizing yourself, quality might be better if the up load process doesn't need to do anything.
Good point. Thanks for the heads up
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My photo's even as mediocre as they may be to you hotshot are real!
Edward Weston, a skilled photographer once said : " everything in a photograph is accurate, none of it is true" Personally The moment you photograph anything you remove it from reality and create what is merely a representation of it.


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The moment you photograph anything you remove it from reality and create what is merely a representation of it.

Beautiful photograph, Digitalis. A true example of what photography is really all about: light and shadow and colour and composition, and the feelings that they can evoke.
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I would add: photography is not about recording what you see, but recording what you feel. Lovely image, Digitalis.
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Thanks for starting this club. A great idea.
I have been a Pentax user since 1975 (SP1000 & Spotmatic SP) and the K10D was my first K-mount. I had been waiting for Pentax to produce a camera that met the specs I was waiting for. The K10D was that camera. I bought one and I have never looked back.
When you learn how to get the best out of it, it produces fine images. Sure, I would like a K-5iiS or a K-3 but, as a retired person, I find it hard to justify upgrading while my K10D is working as well as it is.
Fortunately, the 18-55mm kit lens is regarded as one of the best and that is good because I have taken most of my images with it. The zoom range just suits me. I have upgraded to the WR version.
Here are a few of my images to showcase what the K10D can do:
















There are plenty more on Flickr.
Wow....i'm stupefied...
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Tone and civility . . .

One of the things I most value about the Forum is the high level of courtesy, kindness, and goodwill that generally characterize the postings and the exchanges of views and information. I find myself, on occasion, rereading my comments before posting to assure that they contain nothing that could give offense because of my sharp critical comments, bruskness of language, or vague humor or sarcasm that could easily be misinterpreted. I believe there are a few communications in this string that might have benefitted from just such a review prior to posting,

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Well said, Ivan.
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QuoteOriginally posted by Oldhand Quote
K-10D and Auto Vivitar 2.8/35
Love that CCD sensor
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PS: the images that I post here on the Pentax forum always lose crispness and sharpness and pop for some reason.
They are always better on my monitor and other forums show them in a better light.
I am puzzled by the drop in IQ on this forum
To see this same image elsewhere and see the differences have a look at:
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Yes, I see what you mean, Tom. A very real and noticeable difference.
And that is why I almost never upload here to display my images. Instead, I always use a link to my images on Flickr and then they display as I uploaded them there.

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Wow....i'm stupefied...
Thank you, sir, for your very kind comment. But there really is nothing there that anyone else could not have done with a K10D and the 18-55 kit lens and a bit of knowledge about PP in Photoshop. Plus a few years of experience!

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QuoteOriginally posted by paulh Quote
Well said, Ivan.
I'll second what Paul said.

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A blast from the past. I bought two of these coffee mugs many years ago. They came with 3 rolls of Ilford film - one each of FP4, HP5 and XP-1. Those were the days.

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sign me up . sounds like a great club to join . i got my k-10d yesterday and i have to say it's a awesome camera
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60 - OMG that's a handfull!
Oh well - there is always next time.

Here is an image from good old K-10D and an aged US department store lens - Sears Auto EE 135mm f2.8
Cheers
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QuoteQuote:
If you can't produce something straight out of the camera without using a photo editing program, your conception of true art and what photography is all about is flawed. I will shoot you one question! Where would you have been 15 years ago without your Photoshop.
I'd have been in my wet darkroom with an enlarger timing development, varying temperature, trying different developers and papers, pushin', pullin', dodgin', burnin' prints and doin' post processing in a smelly, messy way . . . and cussing the lack of features we have today to deal with non-destructive adjustments if I'd only known about them then.

Wet PP was much more time consuming, expensive and inflexible than the tools we have today -- whether used for 'art' or for recording forensic reality.

Straight out of camera was never the final product except for slides and those weren't ALL THAT GREAT in most cases.

At the very least, you need to consider an appropriate compositional crop suitable for the subject rather than the given format!!

Post processing is an integral part/art of photography. To deny that is to tell Ansel he was wastin' his time in the darkroom all those years.

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(An' I can now crawl into bed at midnight after a long 'day' in the "compute darkroom" without being told I stink -- and to go take a shower! Digital PP has its procreational advantages, too! )
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And of course thereís no such thing as an unprocessed digital photograph anyway. A jpeg straight from the camera has still been converted from the raw data, but the conversion has been done automatically, according to parameters set by the cameraís firmware designers and the userís menu choices.

Converting from raw to jpeg at home on the computer is merely a different way of doing the same thing. In fact Iíd argue that, when I shoot raw+ and compare my own conversion with the jpeg straight from the camera, my own version is usually LESS processed. I prefer to get it right in camera and only apply very simple levels and sharpening adjustments on the computer, but thatís because I shot Kodachrome for thirty years before I went digital. I learned my photography in an era when I had no way of doing any post processing at all. Because I was always hopeless in the darkroom, and never managed to produce a B&W wet print worth seeing the light of day.

Personally, I feel that colour photographs can only withstand a very limited amount of processing before they start to look fake. Whereas I think that B&W can take extensive manipulation and still look wonderful. But thatís just my personal aesthetic taste, and itís no more valid than anyone elseís.

If I think that a photograph looks beautiful, and I believe that itís a genuine attempt by the photographer to convey what it felt like to be there in the moment, then I couldnít care less what technical means were used to achieve the end result.
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