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06-23-2015, 01:14 AM   #1306
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QuoteOriginally posted by Dartmoor Dave Quote
That's astoundingly good for the version 1 kit lens. It would still be a good shot whatever lens it was taken with, but with THAT lens it's darn close to miraculous.

I ended up wrenching my version 1 kit lens off my old K100D one day and depositing it in the dog poop bin in my local park, which is where I felt it truly belonged. I gave the version 2 kit lens to my sister's partner to help him get started with a K10D body he had bought. And recently I donated the 18-55mm WR to a local charity after not having used it for a year. So it's fair to say that I'm not the kit lens's biggest fan, but my admiration for those who can get good results with it is boundless.
Thank you, Dave, for your kind words. I can see that you have very high standards but I think you are being a bit harsh on the 18-55. I have taken most of the images on my K10D with both my version 1 lens and then with the WR version. In fact, the WR is on the K10D right now. It is definitely a better lens than the version 1 but I have no intention of parting with either. I know they are not everyone's cup of tea but there seems to be universal agreement that the Pentax kit lenses are superior to their Canikon cousins. When I got my K-3 I chose the 18-135mm HSM kit lens and I am delighted with it.

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Ray, the flower shot taken with the kit lens is superb. My old 18-55 v1 has been stuck on the K10 for awhile now. Here's some photos taken the same evening as the "pods" photo. When I'm taking our dogs out, I usually fall back on a small & light AF lens of some kind since I'm busy with leashes, etc. We visited the flooded lake parks & soccer fields one evening before Tropical Depression Bill dumped even more unwanted rain on us. But the storm provided some very nice clouds and lighting. (xposted)





I wasn't the only one walking around with a camera that night:


Taking a drink from the flooded soccer fields:

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QuoteOriginally posted by paulh Quote
Ray, the flower shot taken with the kit lens is superb. My old 18-55 v1 has been stuck on the K10 for awhile now. Here's some photos taken the same evening as the "pods" photo. When I'm taking our dogs out, I usually fall back on a small & light AF lens of some kind since I'm busy with leashes, etc. We visited the flooded lake parks & soccer fields one evening before Tropical Depression Bill dumped even more unwanted rain on us. But the storm provided some very nice clouds and lighting. (xposted)
Thanks Paul. Those images are typical 18-55mm perspective and the reason why I like that lens. The 18-55 range suits my photographic style for most shots and I feel comfortable with the results.
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I other news! My Hong Kong shutter cable arrived today.

I've had others complain that in B mode it wouldn't expose past 30 seconds. No problem here. In testing the exif reads 271 seconds. (4.5ish mins) I'm going to turn the night time into day time tonight! :P

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The 18-55mm is also the cheapest AF wide angle in the Pentax range!
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QuoteOriginally posted by rayallen Quote
I know they are not everyone's cup of tea but there seems to be universal agreement that the Pentax kit lenses are superior to their Canikon cousins.

Very true. My sister's partner used a Canon DSLR before he saw the light and switched to Pentax, and his results with the Canon kit lens were horribly soft and mushy. When he switched to a K10D with the version 2 kit lens his results improved dramatically from the very first frame. Meanwhile another family member has just bought a mid-range Nikon -- despite my strong Pentax recommendation -- and again her results with the kit lens look no better than the average point-and-shoot.

So, yes, as kit lenses go, the Pentax offerings are much better than those from Canikon. And I know that in the right hands any of the 18-55mm versions can produce excellent results -- you guys prove that consistently right here in this thread. Mine are simply not the right hands. I just don't possess the technical skill necessary to extract the best from the kit zoom, and I've only ever managed one halfway decent shot with any of the versions I've ever owned:


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Well, the latest versions of the Canon and Nikon kit lenses appear to be very good - the Canon in particular might be better than Pentax because it is very sharp wide open. I don't think Pentax still has an edge on them, honestly. And the best kit lens is now supposedly the Fuji.

I say that as someone who doesn't use the kit lens, and when I do, I always regret it. But I'm glad you guys are making yours work well
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QuoteOriginally posted by Dartmoor Dave Quote
I've only ever managed one halfway decent shot with any of the versions I've ever owned:
That's a nice shot Dave - love the moody desaturated look of this one.

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I honestly don't miss my K10.. mostly the autofocus and poor high ISO performance. On a positive note the colours were outstanding

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QuoteOriginally posted by paulh Quote
That's a nice shot Dave - love the moody desaturated look of this one.
Yes, I agree.
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K10D loves red.

Another example of how well the K10D handles red. A recent purchase of a "Grevillea Superb".





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I really like my 18-55WR on my K10D. This was taken in heavy shadow. A double poppy!
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QuoteOriginally posted by csa Quote
I really like my 18-55WR on my K10D. This was taken in heavy shadow. A double poppy!
Great colors Carol!

A couple shots using the K10D with Sigma lenses. I guess this flooding is gonna dominate my photo shoots this summer!
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QuoteOriginally posted by wtlwdwgn Quote
Kimber. A DA* 50-135 + Kenko 1.5x TC makes for a nice 75-200 f/4 lens.
I love the effect that the lens combination (?) had on your fine subject. Looks painterly.

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QuoteOriginally posted by ChristianRock Quote
Well, the latest versions of the Canon and Nikon kit lenses appear to be very good - the Canon in particular might be better than Pentax because it is very sharp wide open. I don't think Pentax still has an edge on them, honestly. And the best kit lens is now supposedly the Fuji.

I say that as someone who doesn't use the kit lens, and when I do, I always regret it. But I'm glad you guys are making yours work well
I've had some great results with the new collapsible 18-50mm WR kit lens- so much so that I decided to hang on to it. It seems a lot sharper than I ever remember a kit being.
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Paul, I really like the effect of the plant in the second photo; very striking! Those Sigmas do a great job, as well as the operator!
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