The K10D Club!

tromboads · 05-13-2014, 06:24 AM

Oh I mean no harm directed toward you with that last comment. Nor anyone for that matter. It seems I still have a difficult time judging how much tongue I can put in my cheek for it to translate over into a forum :P

manntax · 05-13-2014, 06:38 AM

Originally posted by tromboads

Oh I mean no harm directed toward you with that last comment. Nor anyone for that matter. It seems I still have a difficult time judging how much tongue I can put in my cheek for it to translate over into a forum :P

No offence taken - I think i simple missed that 'tongue' bit :P

utrechtnl · 05-13-2014, 05:50 PM - **2 Likes**

While some of the esoteric comparisons of CCD vs CMOS sensors can make it difficult to draw an objective conclusion, I have greatly enjoyed this thread's appreciation for the K10d's performance. I recently decided to dust off an old 28mm DDR made Pentacon f2.8 for a sunny day in Mobile, Alabama. Here are a couple of shots both at f8.

Dartmoor Dave · 05-14-2014, 01:29 AM

Originally posted by tromboads

Don't all yee with k10's just use 30yr old pentax M's. What's all this auto focus witchcraft?

It was when they brought out those new-fangled 30 year old M lenses that it all started going downhill. If it doesn't say Takumar on the front then it's not getting anywhere near MY camera!

And. . . remove tongue from cheek.

BobD2 · 05-14-2014, 03:49 AM

Originally posted by pacerr

For folks considering acquiring the K10 CCD (which is a good thing to do!) -- the K200 should be included in the search

I mostly agree about the K200D - another good option to be sure - but feel I should point out one difference I think is important, and that's the viewfinder. The K200D incorporates a penta-mirror instead of a pentaprism like the K10D. Not a huge deal if AF is accurate on a K200D and that's what you're using - but if you're relying heavily on manual focus, the brighter pentaprism is helpful I think. But I had a K200D in hand at one point, and it's very capable.

Originally posted by pacerr

With in-camera focus adjustment there may have been an ill-advised slackening in QA for consumer camera marketing assuming the users would be astute enough to pick up the slack.

But we're talking about a hack to self adjust focus with the K10D, right? According to Pentax, we should not be able to adjust the AF in our K10D bodies at all. So I definitely feel their slackening of QA is ill-advised. And while on this topic, it appears they also didn't bother calibrating the focusing screens with the proper shim - if one is to expect accurate visual focusing confirmation with the screen, one might need to buy shims and adjust their own screen (as I have done). We obviously love so much about our Pentax DSLRs, but you really do need to be a true 'roll your sleeves up camera geek' to fine tune the beast and get those gorgeous images in focus.

manntax · 05-14-2014, 04:22 AM

Originally posted by BobD2

We obviously love so much about our Pentax DSLRs, but you really do need to be a true 'roll your sleeves up camera geek' to fine tune the beast and get those gorgeous images in focus.

Couldn't agree more on this one !

>>-manntax-->

BobD2 · 05-14-2014, 04:44 AM

Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave

It was when they brought out those new-fangled 30 year old M lenses that it all started going downhill

Bet it's been at least 25 years since anyone has called an M-series lens 'newfangled'!

Originally posted by PaulieHun

So rapt I've kicked it off with a K10D, awesome camera

Congrats on your choice of a K10D, and welcome.

**paulh** · 05-17-2014, 06:53 PM

Sigma 17-70 DC macro (xposted)

tromboads · 05-17-2014, 07:21 PM

Rainy afternoon With a Dirt filled Tak 55 f1.8

Click

Hmmm that lack of contrast. moooooooody :P

Dartmoor Dave · 05-18-2014, 01:55 AM

Originally posted by tromboads

Hmmm that lack of contrast. moooooooody :P

But it ISN'T lacking in contrast. It's just mercifully free from the over-exaggerated contrast and hyper-saturated colours that people seem to demand from modern cameras and lenses. Those who try to look at the world and see it as it really is will know that on rainy days there isn't much natural contrast in the light, and that colours are naturally muted. Problem is, you Aussies just aren't familiar enough with rain. I like the photo very much.

Personally, the only modern lens I use is the 18-55mmWR, which I keep purely for wet weather. And every time I use it, I have to heavily reduce the contrast and saturation in processing to try to get anything close to the way things really looked.

tromboads · 05-18-2014, 05:16 AM

They are all very good points, you descibre it much better then I, and yes, rain is a fickel Sod as far as we are concerned. Rain stops things like bbq's, fishing and football. </end cliche Australia>

Your shot is lovely

My dirt filled super tak is wr as far as I'm concerned

**ivanvernon** · 05-18-2014, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by Bondezire

К10D + K135/2.5

If I had taken this photo, I would have to return to it over and over again to remind myself how to obtain such results!

**paulh** · 05-19-2014, 07:39 AM

K10D with the 18-55 kit lens (xposted)

BobD2 · 05-20-2014, 08:34 AM

paulh, you have inspired me to show my 18-55 kit lens some love - it's no slouch, is it?

**RussV** · 05-21-2014, 02:32 AM

This is a geat thread, wonderful images. I have the K100D Super, also CCD sensor but only 6mp. It serves me perfectly well but I'd like more more pixels to make cropping easier. I'd been thinking of getting a K20 but maybe now I should look at K10's. Luckily used K10d's are now so cheap, half the price of a K20 in many cases.

Also as recently stated the standard kit zooms can be very capable. I suspect some copies are better than others. it's worth holding on to a good one. I often use mine even though I have some very good manual Pentax lenses.

05-18-2014, 01:55 AM	#490
Dartmoor Dave Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Dartmoor, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,882	Originally posted by tromboads Hmmm that lack of contrast. moooooooody :P But it ISN'T lacking in contrast. It's just mercifully free from the over-exaggerated contrast and hyper-saturated colours that people seem to demand from modern cameras and lenses. Those who try to look at the world and see it as it really is will know that on rainy days there isn't much natural contrast in the light, and that colours are naturally muted. Problem is, you Aussies just aren't familiar enough with rain. I like the photo very much. Personally, the only modern lens I use is the 18-55mmWR, which I keep purely for wet weather. And every time I use it, I have to heavily reduce the contrast and saturation in processing to try to get anything close to the way things really looked. Last edited by Dartmoor Dave; 05-18-2014 at 02:49 AM. Reason: Added photo

05-18-2014, 05:16 AM	#491
tromboads Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Melbs Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,240	They are all very good points, you descibre it much better then I, and yes, rain is a fickel Sod as far as we are concerned. Rain stops things like bbq's, fishing and football. </end cliche Australia> Your shot is lovely My dirt filled super tak is wr as far as I'm concerned Last edited by tromboads; 05-18-2014 at 05:24 AM.

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tromboads Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Melbs Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,240	Oh I mean no harm directed toward you with that last comment. Nor anyone for that matter. It seems I still have a difficult time judging how much tongue I can put in my cheek for it to translate over into a forum :P

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manntax Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,972	Originally posted by tromboads Oh I mean no harm directed toward you with that last comment. Nor anyone for that matter. It seems I still have a difficult time judging how much tongue I can put in my cheek for it to translate over into a forum :P No offence taken - I think i simple missed that 'tongue' bit :P

05-14-2014, 01:29 AM	#484
Dartmoor Dave Pentaxian Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Dartmoor, UK Photos: Gallery Posts: 3,882	Originally posted by tromboads Don't all yee with k10's just use 30yr old pentax M's. What's all this auto focus witchcraft? It was when they brought out those new-fangled 30 year old M lenses that it all started going downhill. If it doesn't say Takumar on the front then it's not getting anywhere near MY camera! And. . . remove tongue from cheek.

05-14-2014, 03:49 AM	#485
BobD2 Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Maine Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 32	Originally posted by pacerr For folks considering acquiring the K10 CCD (which is a good thing to do!) -- the K200 should be included in the search I mostly agree about the K200D - another good option to be sure - but feel I should point out one difference I think is important, and that's the viewfinder. The K200D incorporates a penta-mirror instead of a pentaprism like the K10D. Not a huge deal if AF is accurate on a K200D and that's what you're using - but if you're relying heavily on manual focus, the brighter pentaprism is helpful I think. But I had a K200D in hand at one point, and it's very capable. Originally posted by pacerr With in-camera focus adjustment there may have been an ill-advised slackening in QA for consumer camera marketing assuming the users would be astute enough to pick up the slack. But we're talking about a hack to self adjust focus with the K10D, right? According to Pentax, we should not be able to adjust the AF in our K10D bodies at all. So I definitely feel their slackening of QA is ill-advised. And while on this topic, it appears they also didn't bother calibrating the focusing screens with the proper shim - if one is to expect accurate visual focusing confirmation with the screen, one might need to buy shims and adjust their own screen (as I have done). We obviously love so much about our Pentax DSLRs, but you really do need to be a true 'roll your sleeves up camera geek' to fine tune the beast and get those gorgeous images in focus.

05-14-2014, 04:22 AM	#486
manntax Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Photos: Albums Posts: 1,972	Originally posted by BobD2 We obviously love so much about our Pentax DSLRs, but you really do need to be a true 'roll your sleeves up camera geek' to fine tune the beast and get those gorgeous images in focus. Couldn't agree more on this one ! >>-manntax-->

05-14-2014, 04:44 AM	#487
BobD2 Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Maine Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 32	Originally posted by Dartmoor Dave It was when they brought out those new-fangled 30 year old M lenses that it all started going downhill Bet it's been at least 25 years since anyone has called an M-series lens 'newfangled'! Originally posted by PaulieHun So rapt I've kicked it off with a K10D, awesome camera Congrats on your choice of a K10D, and welcome.

05-17-2014, 06:53 PM	#488
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05-17-2014, 07:21 PM	#489
tromboads Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Melbs Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,240	Rainy afternoon With a Dirt filled Tak 55 f1.8 Click Hmmm that lack of contrast. moooooooody :P

05-18-2014, 05:43 AM	#492
ivanvernon Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Medina, OH Photos: Albums Posts: 7,224	Originally posted by Bondezire К10D + K135/2.5 If I had taken this photo, I would have to return to it over and over again to remind myself how to obtain such results!

05-19-2014, 07:39 AM	#493
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,262	K10D with the 18-55 kit lens (xposted)

05-20-2014, 08:34 AM	#494
BobD2 Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Maine Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 32	paulh, you have inspired me to show my 18-55 kit lens some love - it's no slouch, is it?

05-21-2014, 02:32 AM	#495
RussV Site Supporter Join Date: Mar 2013 Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 300	This is a geat thread, wonderful images. I have the K100D Super, also CCD sensor but only 6mp. It serves me perfectly well but I'd like more more pixels to make cropping easier. I'd been thinking of getting a K20 but maybe now I should look at K10's. Luckily used K10d's are now so cheap, half the price of a K20 in many cases. Also as recently stated the standard kit zooms can be very capable. I suspect some copies are better than others. it's worth holding on to a good one. I often use mine even though I have some very good manual Pentax lenses.