The K10D Club!

**paulh** · 01-08-2015, 01:01 PM

I was digging thru my older files, and found another shot of that tiny red bloom - this one is at iso 100. Shot using a Quantaray (Sigma) 28-90 macro:

tromboads · 01-09-2015, 03:04 PM

Originally posted by pdophoto

Magnificent picture Dave!

A knot in an ordinary string on blue fabric.
49 images @ 0.080mm,3.84 mm total. Mag ±3:1
Lens: EL-NIKKOR 50/2.8 0.5 sec., f/5.6, ISO 100
Lighting: 1 40 watts compact fluo lamp with shower curtain diffuser ±75mm above.

lot of work for that detail there

Well done.

**csa** · 01-09-2015, 03:11 PM

Pierre; that is an amazing shot of an item we don't give a second thought to! Very excellent; I love the background color accenting the knot!

**csa** · 01-10-2015, 01:42 PM

Question; what Auto Sensitivity do you use for outdoor photos, birds etc? Mine was set to include 1600 (full range). I was using Tav F8, 250 shutter.

This would be with a 400mm lens. I'd appreciate any suggestions as to what settings to use, including TAv, Av, P, etc.

Thanks!

Carol

**paulh** · 01-10-2015, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by csa

Question; what Auto Sensitivity do you use for outdoor photos, birds etc? Mine was set to include 1600; which I think that was what used in my latest bird pictures, as they appear to have quite a bit of noise in them. I was using Tav F8, 250 shutter.

I don't set auto-ISO on my K10D, but if I did, I'd probably peak it at 800. That's the highest I'll set iso, and really only for emergency use...YMMV

**wtlwdwgn** · 01-10-2015, 01:57 PM

The K10D can be noisy above ISO 400 but it's more important to get the proper exposure regardless of the ISO. The noise is certainly better than the grain in TX 400 pushed two stops. Noise can be dealt with in PP to an extent so I personally don't worry about it too much. Just my $0.02.

**csa** · 01-10-2015, 02:40 PM

Thanks Paul & Steve; I really want to get the best I can out of the K10D, with the Tokina 400mm.

Here's one from today: This was heavily cropped, and I really don't know if it's noise or grain in it.

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**rayallen** · 01-10-2015, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by csa

Thanks Paul & Steve; I really want to get the best I can out of the K10D, with the Tokina 400mm.

Here's one from today: This was heavily cropped, and I really don't know if it's noise or grain in it.

The EXIF says it was shot at ISO 125 so it should have looked OK but if you crop heavily then that is what you are going to get.

**csa** · 01-10-2015, 05:04 PM

Understood; I'm just trying to understand whether it's noise or grain in the image.

**wtlwdwgn** · 01-10-2015, 05:14 PM

Actually that's a pretty darn good image especially if cropped like you say. Cropping will magnify any flaws including noise. A little NR should remove it but don't expect miracles. DSLRs don't have 'grain' like film does but "grain like" noise is a good trait as opposed to the blotchy noise often seen. Good shooting with that combo.

**csa** · 01-10-2015, 06:07 PM

Thanks Steve! Here's what it was cropped from; the second one of mine posted in this thread:

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/122-lens-clubs/55946-300mm-plus-lens-club...enses-992.html

**paulh** · 01-11-2015, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by csa

Thanks Steve! Here's what it was cropped from; the second one of mine posted in this thread:

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/122-lens-clubs/55946-300mm-plus-lens-club...enses-992.html

Nice work - you did well with some challenging subjects using the long lens! As Steve suggested, see if some noise reduction can improve your images somewhat.

**csa** · 01-11-2015, 01:47 AM

Paul, thank you! I'm pretty new using Elements 11, so will see what I can do. It's a little confusing as to what the difference is using "Unsharp", vs "Sharpening".

Another thing that challanged these photos, there was bright snow surrounding the birds, so I'm pleased that they turned out, despite the bright backgrounds. I really appreciate you and others taking the time to help me become a better photographer!

BlakeShellman · 01-11-2015, 10:04 AM

I keep thinking about selling mine but....

**paulh** · 01-11-2015, 06:15 PM

I don't think I've posted this here before, but apologies if I did! K10D with a m/f Tokina 80-200 zoom:

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01-08-2015, 01:01 PM	#916
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,263	I was digging thru my older files, and found another shot of that tiny red bloom - this one is at iso 100. Shot using a Quantaray (Sigma) 28-90 macro:

01-09-2015, 03:04 PM	#917
tromboads Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Melbs Photos: Gallery Posts: 1,240	Originally posted by pdophoto Magnificent picture Dave! A knot in an ordinary string on blue fabric. 49 images @ 0.080mm,3.84 mm total. Mag ±3:1 Lens: EL-NIKKOR 50/2.8 0.5 sec., f/5.6, ISO 100 Lighting: 1 40 watts compact fluo lamp with shower curtain diffuser ±75mm above. lot of work for that detail there Well done.

01-09-2015, 03:11 PM	#918
csa Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Montana mountains Posts: 10,133	Pierre; that is an amazing shot of an item we don't give a second thought to! Very excellent; I love the background color accenting the knot!

01-10-2015, 01:42 PM	#919
csa Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Montana mountains Posts: 10,133	Question; what Auto Sensitivity do you use for outdoor photos, birds etc? Mine was set to include 1600 (full range). I was using Tav F8, 250 shutter. This would be with a 400mm lens. I'd appreciate any suggestions as to what settings to use, including TAv, Av, P, etc. Thanks! Carol

01-10-2015, 01:45 PM	#920
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,263	Originally posted by csa Question; what Auto Sensitivity do you use for outdoor photos, birds etc? Mine was set to include 1600; which I think that was what used in my latest bird pictures, as they appear to have quite a bit of noise in them. I was using Tav F8, 250 shutter. I don't set auto-ISO on my K10D, but if I did, I'd probably peak it at 800. That's the highest I'll set iso, and really only for emergency use...YMMV

01-10-2015, 01:57 PM	#921
wtlwdwgn Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Billings, MT Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,840	The K10D can be noisy above ISO 400 but it's more important to get the proper exposure regardless of the ISO. The noise is certainly better than the grain in TX 400 pushed two stops. Noise can be dealt with in PP to an extent so I personally don't worry about it too much. Just my $0.02.

01-10-2015, 04:42 PM	#923
rayallen Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Forresters Beach, NSW, Australia. Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 3,014	Originally posted by csa Thanks Paul & Steve; I really want to get the best I can out of the K10D, with the Tokina 400mm. Here's one from today: This was heavily cropped, and I really don't know if it's noise or grain in it. The EXIF says it was shot at ISO 125 so it should have looked OK but if you crop heavily then that is what you are going to get.

01-10-2015, 05:04 PM	#924
csa Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Montana mountains Posts: 10,133	Understood; I'm just trying to understand whether it's noise or grain in the image.

01-10-2015, 05:14 PM	#925
wtlwdwgn Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Billings, MT Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 13,840	Actually that's a pretty darn good image especially if cropped like you say. Cropping will magnify any flaws including noise. A little NR should remove it but don't expect miracles. DSLRs don't have 'grain' like film does but "grain like" noise is a good trait as opposed to the blotchy noise often seen. Good shooting with that combo.

01-10-2015, 06:07 PM	#926
csa Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Montana mountains Posts: 10,133	Thanks Steve! Here's what it was cropped from; the second one of mine posted in this thread: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/122-lens-clubs/55946-300mm-plus-lens-club...enses-992.html

01-11-2015, 12:27 AM	#927
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,263	Originally posted by csa Thanks Steve! Here's what it was cropped from; the second one of mine posted in this thread: https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/122-lens-clubs/55946-300mm-plus-lens-club...enses-992.html Nice work - you did well with some challenging subjects using the long lens! As Steve suggested, see if some noise reduction can improve your images somewhat.

01-11-2015, 01:47 AM	#928
csa Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Montana mountains Posts: 10,133	Paul, thank you! I'm pretty new using Elements 11, so will see what I can do. It's a little confusing as to what the difference is using "Unsharp", vs "Sharpening". Another thing that challanged these photos, there was bright snow surrounding the birds, so I'm pleased that they turned out, despite the bright backgrounds. I really appreciate you and others taking the time to help me become a better photographer!

01-11-2015, 10:04 AM	#929
BlakeShellman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 224	I keep thinking about selling mine but....

01-11-2015, 06:15 PM	#930
paulh Site Supporter Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: DFW Texas/Ventura County, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 33,263	I don't think I've posted this here before, but apologies if I did! K10D with a m/f Tokina 80-200 zoom: