Creepy lenses

mrNewt · 12-17-2013, 09:20 AM

Originally posted by Giklab

Example:

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Mods please don't kill me for linking to that site...

Scared to click on it... work safe!?

Giklab · 12-17-2013, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by mrNewt

Scared to click on it... work safe!?

Sort of. /p/ is pretty harmless.

At least when compared to the rest of the site...

**crewl1** · 12-17-2013, 10:02 AM - **1 Like**

Ok I found his blog - just pics here OH-HI

aremmes · 12-17-2013, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by crewl1

Ok I found his blog - just pics here OH-HI

The guy starting in the pics starting around A0027446-y600px.jpg seems intimidated and disappointed with his gear.

RonH · 12-17-2013, 12:25 PM

I happened to be on the Zoo Miami safari with OrchidJulie and the lens in question was huge. I'm guessing it was of a push/pull type of zoom. Maybe 100~400 or so. I was astounded that this woman could even hoist the thing to eye level. I remember remarking to Julie at one point that she (the lady with the huge rig) probably would be sore that night from lifting it. From the look of her arm muscles it was pretty clear to me that she wasn't used to using that lens. Personally I wouldn't leave the house with that thing unless I had at least a good monopod to sit it on.

Just for the record though, a twist type zoom can suffer from lens creep too. In fact two of the best selling Nikkors suffer this milady. Both the 18~200 and the 18~300 suffer from lens creep. The 18~300 even has, I believe, a knob to lock the lens at the short end of the zoom range. And both of these lenses are tiny compared to what we saw at Zoo Miami!

No comment on creepy photographers. LOL

lister6520 · 12-17-2013, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by aremmes

The guy starting in the pics starting around A0027446-y600px.jpg seems intimidated and disappointed with his gear.

Wow there is someone out there with with a Pentax camera! Not quite sure what the expression on his face is expressing but looks like he's just about to shoot something interesting.

Looks like a K-5 with Tamron 10-24. Or maybe a brand new K-3 on its first outing.

edit: oops forgot to insert the link:

mrNewt · 12-17-2013, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by lister6520

Wow there is someone out there with with a Pentax camera! Not quite sure what the expression on his face is expressing but looks like he's just about to shoot something interesting.

Looks like a K-5 with Tamron 10-24. Or maybe a brand new K-3 on its first outing.

edit: oops forgot to insert the link:

That's a K-5

- would you look at that sexy beast

.
Not sure about the lenses...

VisualDarkness · 12-17-2013, 12:59 PM

Well, the Canon 100-400 weighs about as much as my biggest lenses (Sigma 70-200/2.8, Sigma 150-500 etc) and if you can't lift that lens you should really work on your strength. Even I can shoot with a lens like that handheld and I got some real spaghetti-arms.

mrNewt · 12-17-2013, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by VisualDarkness

Well, the Canon 100-400 weighs about as much as my biggest lenses (Sigma 70-200/2.8, Sigma 150-500 etc) and if you can't lift that lens you should really work on your strength. Even I can shoot with a lens like that handheld and I got some real spaghetti-arms.

The Sigma 70-200 is not that heavy... or maybe I just got used to it!?

RonH · 12-17-2013, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by VisualDarkness

Well, the Canon 100-400 weighs about as much as my biggest lenses (Sigma 70-200/2.8, Sigma 150-500 etc) and if you can't lift that lens you should really work on your strength. Even I can shoot with a lens like that handheld and I got some real spaghetti-arms.

Well, I was guessing at the focal length. But assuming for awhile that the lens in question is in fact a 100~400 or perhaps a 70~200 f2.8 we're looking at a bit over 3 pounds for the lens alone. Add the camera body and flash and the weight starts be a problem. Not to hold, but to hold steady. Maybe you can get acceptably sharp images without resorting to some sort of camera support or jacking the ISO, but not everyone can, even with flash.

--Ron

lister6520 · 12-17-2013, 04:22 PM

The Sigma 150-500 AFAIK weighs more than 3 pounds but I find no problem holding it steady. I have shot plenty sharp pictures handheld at 500mm with it. As long as there isn't wind it's no issue at all. Just need to make sure the stabiliser is switched on.

VisualDarkness · 12-17-2013, 05:36 PM

People generally exaggerate how hard it is to shoot with long heavy lenses. The problem isn't shooting, the weight actually takes away some of your intense motoric shaking, the problem is lugging it around.

Handheld Sigma 150-500/5-6.3 (non-OS version) at 500mm 1/400s ISO500

OrchidJulie · 12-17-2013, 06:49 PM

My SMC FA Macro has a little clutch control for locking the lens, so it doesn't creep.

Great discussion, guys, I'm learning a lot... but the joke of the post was that Google is telling us we can actually "shop for lens creep" and get "deals on lens creep"...

Carry on...

(and the Canonista was a very short, senior sort of person -- more senior than us! -- and looked like she was weighed down pretty heavily with this lens)

stevebrot · 12-17-2013, 07:13 PM

Originally posted by mrNewt

Scared to click on it... work safe!?

Probably not safe in any sense of the word.

Steve

stevebrot · 12-17-2013, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by lister6520

Wow there is someone out there with with a Pentax camera!

Happy to say, that is not me...

Steve

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12-17-2013, 09:20 AM	#16
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Originally posted by Giklab Example: PROFANITY WARNING /p/ - Photography Mods please don't kill me for linking to that site... Scared to click on it... work safe!?

12-17-2013, 09:41 AM	#17
Giklab Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Slovenia Photos: Gallery Posts: 2,182	Originally posted by mrNewt Scared to click on it... work safe!? Sort of. /p/ is pretty harmless. At least when compared to the rest of the site...

12-17-2013, 10:02 AM - 1 Like	#18
crewl1 Site Supporter Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 9,807	Ok I found his blog - just pics here OH-HI

12-17-2013, 10:33 AM	#19
aremmes Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Philadelphia Photos: Albums Posts: 217	Originally posted by crewl1 Ok I found his blog - just pics here OH-HI The guy starting in the pics starting around A0027446-y600px.jpg seems intimidated and disappointed with his gear.

12-17-2013, 12:25 PM	#20
RonH Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 115	I happened to be on the Zoo Miami safari with OrchidJulie and the lens in question was huge. I'm guessing it was of a push/pull type of zoom. Maybe 100~400 or so. I was astounded that this woman could even hoist the thing to eye level. I remember remarking to Julie at one point that she (the lady with the huge rig) probably would be sore that night from lifting it. From the look of her arm muscles it was pretty clear to me that she wasn't used to using that lens. Personally I wouldn't leave the house with that thing unless I had at least a good monopod to sit it on. Just for the record though, a twist type zoom can suffer from lens creep too. In fact two of the best selling Nikkors suffer this milady. Both the 18~200 and the 18~300 suffer from lens creep. The 18~300 even has, I believe, a knob to lock the lens at the short end of the zoom range. And both of these lenses are tiny compared to what we saw at Zoo Miami! No comment on creepy photographers. LOL

12-17-2013, 12:30 PM	#21
lister6520 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 733	Originally posted by aremmes The guy starting in the pics starting around A0027446-y600px.jpg seems intimidated and disappointed with his gear. Wow there is someone out there with with a Pentax camera! Not quite sure what the expression on his face is expressing but looks like he's just about to shoot something interesting. Looks like a K-5 with Tamron 10-24. Or maybe a brand new K-3 on its first outing. edit: oops forgot to insert the link:

12-17-2013, 12:58 PM	#22
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Originally posted by lister6520 Wow there is someone out there with with a Pentax camera! Not quite sure what the expression on his face is expressing but looks like he's just about to shoot something interesting. Looks like a K-5 with Tamron 10-24. Or maybe a brand new K-3 on its first outing. edit: oops forgot to insert the link: That's a K-5 - would you look at that sexy beast . Not sure about the lenses...

12-17-2013, 12:59 PM	#23
VisualDarkness Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Uppsala, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,439	Well, the Canon 100-400 weighs about as much as my biggest lenses (Sigma 70-200/2.8, Sigma 150-500 etc) and if you can't lift that lens you should really work on your strength. Even I can shoot with a lens like that handheld and I got some real spaghetti-arms.

12-17-2013, 01:05 PM	#24
mrNewt Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: ON, RH Posts: 2,181	Originally posted by VisualDarkness Well, the Canon 100-400 weighs about as much as my biggest lenses (Sigma 70-200/2.8, Sigma 150-500 etc) and if you can't lift that lens you should really work on your strength. Even I can shoot with a lens like that handheld and I got some real spaghetti-arms. The Sigma 70-200 is not that heavy... or maybe I just got used to it!?

12-17-2013, 03:27 PM	#25
RonH Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 115	Originally posted by VisualDarkness Well, the Canon 100-400 weighs about as much as my biggest lenses (Sigma 70-200/2.8, Sigma 150-500 etc) and if you can't lift that lens you should really work on your strength. Even I can shoot with a lens like that handheld and I got some real spaghetti-arms. Well, I was guessing at the focal length. But assuming for awhile that the lens in question is in fact a 100~400 or perhaps a 70~200 f2.8 we're looking at a bit over 3 pounds for the lens alone. Add the camera body and flash and the weight starts be a problem. Not to hold, but to hold steady. Maybe you can get acceptably sharp images without resorting to some sort of camera support or jacking the ISO, but not everyone can, even with flash. --Ron

12-17-2013, 04:22 PM	#26
lister6520 Veteran Member Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 733	The Sigma 150-500 AFAIK weighs more than 3 pounds but I find no problem holding it steady. I have shot plenty sharp pictures handheld at 500mm with it. As long as there isn't wind it's no issue at all. Just need to make sure the stabiliser is switched on.

12-17-2013, 05:36 PM	#27
VisualDarkness Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Uppsala, Sweden Photos: Gallery Posts: 4,439	People generally exaggerate how hard it is to shoot with long heavy lenses. The problem isn't shooting, the weight actually takes away some of your intense motoric shaking, the problem is lugging it around. Handheld Sigma 150-500/5-6.3 (non-OS version) at 500mm 1/400s ISO500

12-17-2013, 06:49 PM	#28
OrchidJulie Moderator Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Magic City Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 6,937 Original Poster	My SMC FA Macro has a little clutch control for locking the lens, so it doesn't creep. Great discussion, guys, I'm learning a lot... but the joke of the post was that Google is telling us we can actually "shop for lens creep" and get "deals on lens creep"... Carry on... (and the Canonista was a very short, senior sort of person -- more senior than us! -- and looked like she was weighed down pretty heavily with this lens)

12-17-2013, 07:13 PM	#29
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by mrNewt Scared to click on it... work safe!? Probably not safe in any sense of the word. Steve

12-17-2013, 07:14 PM	#30
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by lister6520 Wow there is someone out there with with a Pentax camera! Happy to say, that is not me... Steve